I wish I had your confidence Yva, we seriously don't look capable of beating anyone right now, the bottom of the league teams are picking up points from us with ease at the moment.

Ah lads seriously, pull yourselves back from the brink! We won't get relegated.

mags wrote:

Anzac wrote:

By the same token most of what ails us was either started by him directly or became established under his watch.
That is not to say it is all his fault as IMO the BoD prior to KSE is equally culpable for allowing/enabling it to happen.

AW delayed the inevitable with this mediocre ownership, Ivan, and BofD at the helm...But the league caught up to AW.  Away we go, free falling.  The half empty stadium is gonna help to change ownership, I hope. 

This.

We were very demanding with Wenger. That was due to our feeling that Arsenal is a big, well organized club and capalbe of more.

Nonetheless, it seems that the structure and management of the club was deficient and the only reason why that didn't  pose as a real problem was Wenger.

Don't misunderstand me, Wenger leaving was a necessary thing if we wanted to improve. Sadly, it also meaned putting aside maybe the only thing that protected us from complete mediocrity.

It was a bet, and we lost it

We are more likely to get relegated than staying up. This squad is championship level . The only thing Freddie can do is somehow get everyone behind the ball and not concede goals and then hope for the best up front.

GooneriC wrote:

We are more likely to get relegated than staying up. This squad is championship level . The only thing Freddie can do is somehow get everyone behind the ball and not concede goals and then hope for the best up front.

Get a grip

y va marquer wrote:

We won't get relegated.
That's about all that I'm sure about at the moment.

Poor Freddie and Per have a ferociously stressful Christmas ahead.

Going by the history of failure of Tony's League Title threads we just might. If however Dules named the thread "We Fucking get Fucking Relegated" then I'd be confident we won't.

Qwiss! wrote:

GooneriC wrote:

We are more likely to get relegated than staying up. This squad is championship level . The only thing Freddie can do is somehow get everyone behind the ball and not concede goals and then hope for the best up front.

Get a grip

If this squad is Championship level them Emery was a genius last season. 

The performances say otherwise.

y va marquer wrote:

Ah lads seriously, pull yourselves back from the brink! We won't get relegated.

There's absolutely no chance.

We're rubbish at the moment, but even at 10th in the table we're in a false position. And I don't mean we should be lower!

Stop giving us false hope Ricky. We were doomed as soon as Dula made this thread.

Honest question cuz I can't remember.... When was the last time we scored a goal that wasn't a set piece or fluke?

It feels like we have zero creativity and cohesion as a unit moving forward (same with defense but I'm not going to bother talking about that).

How the heck does a team with the players we have struggle to break down teams better? Did emery really screw us so badly with his tactics and man management that we just forgot how to operate? I thought he was bad but I didn't think he was that bad.

It really is starting to feel like there's rot more beneath the surface with some players being the culprits. How much of this situation is mental and egotistical? I've managed people and teams that got into a funk mentally that really destabilized them. It takes a sudden push to get them going or firing someone.

I'm wondering whether the switch to Freddie for these guys is just "same old faces, same problems" which is really cutting out his work with them. He's a poor guy in this situation to be honest.

This all reeks of poor and naive leadership by Edu and the others too in my mind. If they can't see this shit in front of their faces or foreseen this all happening, they clearly lack the strategic foresight to push us forward. I'm worried by the choices they're going to make because of this... when shit hits the fan, lots of people make very poor low percentage choices to make them feel better.

Anyway, just rambling at this point. I hope we have or somehow buy/get enough quality to get us thru the season with our reputation intact. This season is a write off on the epl, perhaps we can salvage something in europa with a big change...

I think we'll win against West Ham. Hopefully it'll make people relax a little bit.

I sure hope so, for Freddie at least...

It's not about the players you have though. This run we are in seriously we have to be one of the worst teams in the division didn't now that anyone can beat.

Now if we can get someone to galvanise the players we should be able to get the required results but Brighton are not a great side and came away to us and liked pretty decent. There aren't many games I fancy is to get a result in and the next fixtures don't look full of points either.

Klaus wrote:

I think we'll win against West Ham. Hopefully it'll make people relax a little bit.

It's a must win because the hammers are woeful and it won't get much easier for us afterwards.

awooga83 wrote:

we have to be one of the worst teams in the division didn't now that anyone can beat

I know we're sick of these putrid stats by now, but some figures from our games vs the current bottom three:

Goals: 6 - 6
Shots: 35 - 67
Shots on Target: 16 - 24

Captain wrote:

Anzac wrote:

Disagree = he inherited The Legendary Back4 + Seaman to build upon, what did he leave behind that was any match for that in any area of the pitch, let alone that we are supposedly better off?  

They weren't quite as legendary then...

Still good enough to win a domestic Double under AW.

Ricky1985 wrote:

y va marquer wrote:

Ah lads seriously, pull yourselves back from the brink! We won't get relegated.

There's absolutely no chance.

We're rubbish at the moment, but even at 10th in the table we're in a false position. And I don't mean we should be lower!

We currently rank 18th for shots allowed per game,
and 8th re shots taken per game.
If we lose v WHam we could drop to 16th, & whilst I don't think we're that bad I think we're in the right area as far as our stats are concerned.