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Ricky1985

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I was there that day and it remains one of my best moments watching football. Jumping up and down in the North Bank celebrating van Persie's goal and then looking up to see Fabregas through on goal. Incredible.

Claudius

In the 4-2, we did a 343 that started with only one of our strikers and a frontline of Auba, Mkhi and Iwobi. We got going second half after changes. I really doubt he goes for an attacking 433 as most would wish. The 343 can be attacking but the players we had at the start were not the most dangerous.

Ray

I’d definitely start Laca and Torreira, we need their tenacity in a match like this.

goon

Ricky1985 wrote:
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I was there that day and it remains one of my best moments watching football. Jumping up and down in the North Bank celebrating van Persie's goal and then looking up to see Fabregas through on goal. Incredible.

That was fantastic. Though I think going from 2-0 down to 5-2 up in the space of 30mins has it beat for me. Espesially given the context (I think a loss would have put us 10 points behind?).

deardevil

The NLD has to be the most exciting game on the football calendar. Two perennial chokers going full throttle at each other. Some absolutely incredible games that we've witnessed over the years. Fabregas's solo goal from the kick off is also the best moment for me.

Ray

Adebayor and Walcott’s goals come to mind.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

A quick Google of Dolma and it looks like the Lebanese dish Warak Enab - vine leaves stuffed with rice and soaked in lovely lemon juice.

TambourineMan

The 5-2 my favourite moment of recent times. The 3-0 at Highbury where Henry went all the way, the 2-2 draw at the lane. The 5-4 - there's been so many good iterations of this fixture.

Captain

Claudius wrote:
goon wrote:
I expect us to play on the front foot in this one. Midfield is a tough one, I'd like Torriera to get a start, I'd like Cebaloos to start and I'm finding it hard to choose between Willock and Douzi for the last spot... then again I'd expect Xhaka to start (and I think this can be justified too)

In the end I'd say Willock and Douzi should be protected a little and go with a midfield of Xhaka, Torreira and Ceballos.

Auba, Laca and Pepe must start up top in a front 3 though.

That Emery played that 442 for so long without changes in a losing effort suggests to me that he wanted the players to get some practice in that formation. I suspect he uses it again against Spurs

I don't know why you felt the need to plant this seed, but you're evil.

Bold Tone

Captain wrote:
Claudius wrote:
That Emery played that 442 for so long without changes in a losing effort suggests to me that he wanted the players to get some practice in that formation. I suspect he uses it again against Spurs

I don't know why you felt the need to plant this seed, but you're evil.

I remember reading/listening to (not sure where) a review, a couple of days back, that mentioned that very point so you shouldn't blame Claudius alone for that.

Claudius

I’m scratching my head and trying to think why Emery would make us play through that. If you believe that Emery had a genius plan, then it is unfortunate that he was undone by lapses 2 minutes either side of halftime. But he could have adjusted soon after that. Instead, he chose to see if his team could persevere and perform in that formation. Why? It’s his big game juju.

Also, Mesut should pack his knapsack. Neither this nor the 343 have a role for him in big games

goon

I was listening to Arsecast earlier and gunnerblog made the same point with regards to the formation, also pointed out we used it a few times last season in big games.

I can sort of understand utilising it away from home but there's no justification for it when playing at home against Spurs where we need to be taking the initiative. It doesn't really matter which way you spin it, having just two attacking players on the pitch is soul sappingly negative.

flobaba

I don’t disagree that it’s not ideal. But what are our real options? Start all three attacking players and the only thing you can really tweak is your formation if things begin to go south. Which is where the decision to sell Iwobi might be problematic, especially as no one knows what our plans are for Ozil this season - there is little or no possibility of a fresh injection of pace or power from the bench, unless we are trusting Mkhitaryan to provide that.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Think a January winger is a must.

Qwiss

flobaba wrote:
I don’t disagree that it’s not ideal. But what are our real options? Start all three attacking players and the only thing you can really tweak is your formation if things begin to go south. Which is where the decision to sell Iwobi might be problematic, especially as no one knows what our plans are for Ozil this season - there is little or no possibility of a fresh injection of pace or power from the bench, unless we are trusting Mkhitaryan to provide that.

I think you need Martinelli on the bench if you go with the PAL™ front 3.

goon

flobaba wrote:
I don’t disagree that it’s not ideal. But what are our real options? Start all three attacking players and the only thing you can really tweak is your formation if things begin to go south. Which is where the decision to sell Iwobi might be problematic, especially as no one knows what our plans are for Ozil this season - there is little or no possibility of a fresh injection of pace or power from the bench, unless we are trusting Mkhitaryan to provide that.

You can't pick a inferior system or team just so that you'll have the option of improving it later. Besides, the Liverpool game suggests that really isn't the case given how late Emery left it to change it up.

Also the above suggests that Emery is somehow being forced into this due to a lack of options, I don't remotely buy into this. If he's forced into anything you'd imagine it would be to play that front three given that it's the strongest part of our starting lineup by a mile vs playing a 19 and 20yr old in an incredibly demanding midfield role.

Captain

Mkhi is fine off the bench.

Can't believe we're going to be a counter attacking team who can't defend.

MistaT

flobaba wrote:
I don’t disagree that it’s not ideal. But what are our real options? Start all three attacking players and the only thing you can really tweak is your formation if things begin to go south.

Nelson, Mkhi, Ozil, etc. could all be introduced if the game isn't going well.

QuincyAbeyie

deardevil wrote:
Quincy sounds like one of those skinny ass people who goes on about how much food he eats and how he can never gain weight, only until you sit down and eat with him and he just about finishes a samosa and calls it a meal.

It seems like the logic here is that if a samosa is small, then no amount of it can make you full? 😆

I'm not skinny at all, but the samosas we eat are definitely fuller/bigger than the ones I get on Google images. The family I have in India wouldn't even be able to afford non-vegetarian samosa, so I know that at least someone wouldn't complain. 🙂 I do think I've had my share of food conversation though and am ready to discuss the game.

goon

Yeah I have to say I've eaten enough somasas in one sitting that it would probably count as a fairly large meal if we're measuring by calories. Of course, it's usually followed by an actual larger main meal too, so I can see both sides of the argument.

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