Claudius wrote: Quincy Abeyie wrote: I don't think the valuations of Iwobi are in sync with most of us feeling that £50m being the most we should've expected to pay for Zaha. The latter is the better player by some distance. Except Zaha’s team wants £100m for him. So adjust as necessary.
Quincy Abeyie wrote: I don't think the valuations of Iwobi are in sync with most of us feeling that £50m being the most we should've expected to pay for Zaha. The latter is the better player by some distance.
I don't think the valuations of Iwobi are in sync with most of us feeling that £50m being the most we should've expected to pay for Zaha. The latter is the better player by some distance.
Except Zaha’s team wants £100m for him. So adjust as necessary.
No. If a person wants £50m for Iwobi and that same person is not willing to pay more than £50m for Zaha, I think that's a mismatch. That's all I'm saying, and no adjustment is necessary.
Luiz is shite. Please no.
mdgoonah41 wrote: what the actual fuck
what the actual fuck
david luiz is one of my 10 least favorite players of all time. him on this team would be nearly intolerable
Contacts-based transfer business. We're picking and choosing between every fuckwit agents try to stick us with: Rugani, Luiz, Coutinho...
Weren’t we linked with Luiz a couple of years ago?
Lmao imagine we sign Luiz. Chelsea fans will be so so mad. Why would he force a move from a UCL side he grew up at to us?
Klaus. Luiz or Rugani?
I could take a season where we field any two of Mustafi, Holding, Chambers and Sokratis. But no Luiz, please NO.
Get a proper LB and we will get by with any 2 of those.
Clrnc wrote: Lmao imagine we sign Luiz. Chelsea fans will be so so mad. Why would he force a move from a UCL side he grew up at to us? Klaus. Luiz or Rugani?
It makes sense for him, as he'll play for us and not for them. I'm all aboard the Upamecano train though and nobody can get me off it.
Clrnc wrote:Klaus. Luiz or Rugani?
If the option was between Sokratis breaking his leg in training and us signing one of those two I'd take the leg break.
The next 24 hrs are going to be a wild ride.
Quincy Abeyie wrote: Claudius wrote: Except Zaha’s team wants £100m for him. So adjust as necessary. No. If a person wants £50m for Iwobi and that same person is not willing to pay more than £50m for Zaha, I think that's a mismatch. That's all I'm saying, and no adjustment is necessary.
Claudius wrote: Except Zaha’s team wants £100m for him. So adjust as necessary.
Yep. Like I said some of us are way off transfer valuations in current market prices. Iwobi is worth in excess of 40m and that is fair, Zaha is also worth about 60m+.
Now that he has handed in a transfer request things will be interesting if we sell to Everton and go in for him.
id rather play xhaka at CB than sign david luiz
If this and the Coutinho rumours turns out to be false then L'Equipe clearly just have a 17 year old intern running things.
Quincy Abeyie wrote: Clrnc wrote: Lmao imagine we sign Luiz. Chelsea fans will be so so mad. Why would he force a move from a UCL side he grew up at to us? Klaus. Luiz or Rugani? It makes sense for him, as he'll play for us and not for them. I'm all aboard the Upamecano train though and nobody can get me off it.
I thought he was first choice last year with Rudiger.
If we are signing him as a DM or in a back 3 it will make a lot of sense because his distribution is one of the best out there but...
Claudius wrote: Guys, Iwobi was way ahead on our xA and xG chains. He’s the guy who’s dribbling past guys, cutting in yo set up fullbacks. He doesn’t look exciting and explosive, but he’s been incredibly useful. We don’t have an immediate replacement on the squad if we sell him.
Guys, Iwobi was way ahead on our xA and xG chains. He’s the guy who’s dribbling past guys, cutting in yo set up fullbacks. He doesn’t look exciting and explosive, but he’s been incredibly useful. We don’t have an immediate replacement on the squad if we sell him.
The club is trying to raise as much money from the useless parts as possible. Unfortunately they've all gone for peanuts so, in order to get serious cash, we are going to have to part with better players. I like Iwobi but using xA and xG only tells us he has done better than expected. Since 3 goals and 6 assists is way ahead "on our xA and xG chains" as you put it, those expectations must have been very low. What is more impressive for me is his ability to protect the ball under physical pressure but where he falls down is on the defensive side. His tackling is minimal but worst of all he doesn't track runners.
Clrnc wrote: Quincy Abeyie wrote: It makes sense for him, as he'll play for us and not for them. I'm all aboard the Upamecano train though and nobody can get me off it. I thought he was first choice last year with Rudiger. If we are signing him as a DM or in a back 3 it will make a lot of sense because his distribution is one of the best out there but...
Quincy Abeyie wrote: It makes sense for him, as he'll play for us and not for them. I'm all aboard the Upamecano train though and nobody can get me off it.
I may remember wrong then, thought he was benched towards the end of the season. If he's actually first choice it makes no sense to force a move. If we're looking at betting sites Chelsea are favorites for 4th, while we're favorites for 6th.
Guys, Kia Joorabchian is fooling around with Lequipe by feeding them info about Coutinho and Luiz so his clients can have more interests. Too much of a coincidence
Muswell Hill Gooner wrote: Claudius wrote: Guys, Iwobi was way ahead on our xA and xG chains. He’s the guy who’s dribbling past guys, cutting in yo set up fullbacks. He doesn’t look exciting and explosive, but he’s been incredibly useful. We don’t have an immediate replacement on the squad if we sell him. The club is trying to raise as much money from the useless parts as possible. Unfortunately they've all gone for peanuts so, in order to get serious cash, we are going to have to part with better players. I like Iwobi but using xA and xG only tells us he has done better than expected. Since 3 goals and 6 assists is way ahead "on our xA and xG chains" as you put it, those expectations must have been very low.
The club is trying to raise as much money from the useless parts as possible. Unfortunately they've all gone for peanuts so, in order to get serious cash, we are going to have to part with better players. I like Iwobi but using xA and xG only tells us he has done better than expected. Since 3 goals and 6 assists is way ahead "on our xA and xG chains" as you put it, those expectations must have been very low.
Having more goals than xG is a good trait, Messi is consistently ahead of that statistic. Having higher A than xA is down to luck though, or rather having teammates that do more with the chances than could be expected of them.
Ricky1985 wrote: [Twitter] Wow!
[Twitter] Wow!
I've been wondering all summer if we were waiting for him to force Palace hand. Maybe he left it too late and he'll end up at Everton.
