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Ricky1985

Klaus wrote:
Muswell Hill Gooner wrote:
Unless The Jeff has been pulling up trees in Ligue 1, Iwobi should be going for much more in the Premiership.

He was one of the 4-5 best young dribblers in Europe last season, statistically. (Edit: 9th - https://www.footballwhispers.com/blog/europe-wonderkid-dribblers). Only ones who seem shocked over the supposed fee and Lyon's interest are Arsenal fans. Seems like his future is almost definitely on the right wing judging by what people are saying about him.

I'm not sure where Lyon plan to use him, but my understanding is that Reine-Adelaide played as a CM towards the end of last season and that is where he really started to make people sit up and take notice of him. Also got a goal and assist from there in the first game of Ligue Un this season.

I don't see him as ever being an elite forward, but as a box-to-box midfileder, I think he could become a very good player. When he fills out a bit more, that ball carrying and dribbling ability could be a real weapon.

Clrnc

Lyon is replacing Ndombele with him, like for like plus minus.

Wenger had serious high hopes for him and just one season in Ligue 1 as a CM he is already a revelation. Can only get better.

I'm not jealous though we have Willock, but if Bennacer, JRA, Gnabry and Malen we let 4 very good talents leave for close to nothing compared to the time we invested and bought them over. Now even the former 3 will cost you almost 100m, at a club as cash tight as us we cannot afford to let talents slip out of our hands through mismanagement. Thankfully this is the doing of the past era, hope we don't see things like this again. Everything is looking up now!

Klaus

I'm not calling you out Ricky, you know I respect your opinion and you've watched him a lot more than I have. He seems to be shifted around quite a bit from what I've read though, and I think the expectation is that he'll end up in a more attacking capacity. Maybe that's in a box to box role. His best game to date was against Bordeaux where he scored two and assisted one, and that one seems to have been on the right wing of a 4-3-3.

I think with players like Jeff you're always left with the decision of: should we put him out wide where he can beat his man to create space for himself, or are we going to make use of his athleticism centrally? It's not a surprise to me that he found a role earlier in midfield since he's a clever and technically good player.

Klaus

Clrnc wrote:
Lyon is replacing Ndombele with him, like for like plus minus.

Thiago Mendes is the intended Ndombele replacement, surely.

frusciante

i think iwobi is a pretty similar player to jeff. always thought they will end up in the centre. shame we lost both

Qwiss

Klaus wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
Lyon is replacing Ndombele with him, like for like plus minus.

Thiago Mendes is the intended Ndombele replacement, surely.

Is he not a more defensive player than Ndomble?

MuswellHillGooner

Qwiss! wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Thiago Mendes is the intended Ndombele replacement, surely.

Is he not a more defensive player than Ndomble?

I'm no expert on French football so the below is all google!

It is claimed the Ligue 1 side are keen on signing Mendes from Lille, as they aim to prepare for the exit of Ndombele during the close season.
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2019/06/07/lyon-working-on-deal-to-replace-tottenham-target-tanguy-ndombele/423449/
Lyon have announced the signing of Lille midfielder Thiago Mendes, who will help fill the void left by the departure of Tanguy Ndombele.
https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/lyon-sign-25m-mendes-as-ndombele-replacement/1gvi4a7onxmc11w1c8jp23qa3j

My thoughts are, maybe, the JR Adelaide purchase is to make up for Mendes' limitations in forward play.

Bryant

https://fcbayern.com/de/news/2019/08/fc-bayern-erzielt-einigung-mit-barcelona-ueber-coutinho-transfer?shortURL=72W7d

Time to lock that Coutinho thread up. Quite the fall over the past 1.5 years for him. I do think his game fits the Bundesliga/PL better than La Liga.

Bayern is probably hoping he'll be another Robben, who flopped for a Spanish giant and did a lot of cutting inside for his goals.

lorddulaarsenal

Did Robben flop at Real?

Claudius

I hate Coutinho. His inflated sale to Barca was fundamental to Liverpool’s transformation

mentalvortex

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Did Robben flop at Real?

No, he did not. He was actually very good when he played. Fans liked him too.

However they had to sell him to balance the books for Ronaldo/Kaka after Perez came back as the president.

Clrnc

Ricky1985 wrote:
Benzema had a good season last time out though and scored 21 league goals.

Prior to that he was integral to a team that was obviously very, very successful. Benzema's willingness to the donkey work and his "9.5" role was a factor in Ronaldo's 50+ goal seasons and the proper functioning of their attack overall.

Jovic is no doubt a better finisher, but I still think they need Benzema's all-round ability and class in the team.

Clrnc

Alexis close to joining Inter on loan with an option to buy.

His value is so low nowadays, bullet dodged

USArsenal

Clrnc wrote:
Alexis close to joining Inter on loan with an option to buy.

His value is so low nowadays, bullet dodged

Bullet dodged? We got Mhki in return. I would say that bullet is firmly lodged in our ass

Klaus

Qwiss! wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Thiago Mendes is the intended Ndombele replacement, surely.

Is he not a more defensive player than Ndomble?

I'm not sure. I read at the time they signed him that he was intended as a Ndombele replacement though, and then he picked up two assist in his debut for them. He got another one in the game after that apparently, but I didn't watch that game. He wasn't a defensive mid against Monaco though. Seemed like a great buy for Lyon.

MuswellHillGooner

USArsenal wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
Alexis close to joining Inter on loan with an option to buy.

His value is so low nowadays, bullet dodged

Bullet dodged? We got Mhki in return. I would say that bullet is firmly lodged in our ass

😆

Clrnc

USArsenal wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
Alexis close to joining Inter on loan with an option to buy.

His value is so low nowadays, bullet dodged

Bullet dodged? We got Mhki in return. I would say that bullet is firmly lodged in our ass

Rather take 170k per week of flakiness than 500k per week.

Wages aside Mkhi is a better performing player currently and for the past 2 years.

Claudius

We should get on the phone to Inter. It appears they’re Collecting football antiques. We have 1 or 2 pieces that might be of interest

USArsenal

Clrnc wrote:
USArsenal wrote:
Bullet dodged? We got Mhki in return. I would say that bullet is firmly lodged in our ass

Rather take 170k per week of flakiness than 500k per week.

Wages aside Mkhi is a better performing player currently and for the past 2 years.

well thats why i said in our ass and not our chest. lol. in the ass won't kill us but it still hurts like hell.

Burnwinter

I thought it was a carefully aimed remark, US.

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