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Ricky1985

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It looks like those that wanted Nketiah to work for a season under Bielsa are going to get their wish.

Bold Tone

Ricky1985 wrote:
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Thompson > Brentford
Rico > Celtic
Tierney > Arsenal

Lots of different people on Twitter saying Tierney has been spotted in London.

Brilliant shop-window strategy by Emery.
I was not impressed from the little i saw of Thompson.
The rate at which we have began kicking out useless players suggests either scraping for every loose penny for a major buy or Kroenke has ordered Raul to bring our negative balance into the black.

Klaus

Ricky1985 wrote:
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It looks like those that wanted Nketiah to work for a season under Bielsa are going to get their wish.

One of the best pieces of transfer news all summer.

Mirth

Gazza M wrote:
We shouldn't have bothered with pepe if we end up with these poverty options. That money should've been used on the defense

£80m on a 20 year old CB is ridiculous.

Gazza M

Mirth wrote:
Gazza M wrote:
We shouldn't have bothered with pepe if we end up with these poverty options. That money should've been used on the defense

£80m on a 20 year old CB is ridiculous.

Didn't have to be upamecano. Could've been any number of other centre halves. In reality we needed 2 to replace both kos and mustafi

deardevil

Klaus wrote:
Ricky1985 wrote:
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It looks like those that wanted Nketiah to work for a season under Bielsa are going to get their wish.

One of the best pieces of transfer news all summer.

Yeah, Leeds probably have more money to buy him outright.

DKGooner

I'm actually okay with Luiz - a loan ideally but even permanently for the right fee. A couple of seasons back I would have said no, but think he's more reliable and he's more mobile than Sokratis. Wouldn't want to team him up with Mustafi, but if we can offload the latter, see no problem with him being around to guide Holding and Saliba. The fee quoted for Upamecano is too high IMO and we'll be in a better position to negotiate in January if we really want him with only 18 months left on his contract.

Gazza M

The noises around the luiz deal suggest it wouldn't just be a 1 year loan either

Shady

Gazza M wrote:
We shouldn't have bothered with pepe if we end up with these poverty options. That money should've been used on the defense

We needed Pepe.

Another season of Ozil/Mkhi starting is forfeiting top 4 again.

We could afford to sort both attack and defence this window.

Claudius

We needed both. And it's not an either/or situation.
The Upamecano rumours started as far back as May. So we have been looking into this situation. We didn't just stir yesterday and decide we want the Frenchman

Mirth

Gazza M wrote:
Mirth wrote:
£80m on a 20 year old CB is ridiculous.

Didn't have to be upamecano. Could've been any number of other centre halves. In reality we needed 2 to replace both kos and mustafi

In reality United also needed a CB and couldn't find many alternatives to Macguire. It's not been an easy market to shop in.

HomeSteak

Shady wrote:
We needed Pepe.

Another season of Ozil/Mkhi starting is forfeiting top 4 again.

We could afford to sort both attack and defence this window.

So is not fixing the defence. Away to Newcastle it's gonna be Kola-Sokratis-Chambers/Mustafi-AMN. Disaster. We had a crap defense last season and we somehow got worse.

Sorry if this was posted, gonna let us know on friday ? 😆 after the window is closed?

Bold Tone

Shady wrote:
Gazza M wrote:
We shouldn't have bothered with pepe if we end up with these poverty options. That money should've been used on the defense

We needed Pepe.

Another season of Ozil/Mkhi starting is forfeiting top 4 again.

We could afford to sort both attack and defence this window.

Claudius wrote:
We needed both. And it's not an either/or situation.
The Upamecano rumours started as far back as May. So we have been looking into this situation. We didn't just stir yesterday and decide we want the Frenchman

51 goals against suggests the defence is the bigger problem by miles.
https://www.skysports.com/premier-league-table/2018

Claudius

It has really put the Saliba deal into perspective. We all wondered why Arsenal was spending so much time running around after an 18 year old for the first half of the summer. Well that 18 year old was only the highest rated defender of his age group, had just signed a contract extension, and was on the verge of his first full top flight season. That was good foresight by Raul + co.

That's next year's £60+ chase avoided

Klaus

Mirth wrote:
Gazza M wrote:
Didn't have to be upamecano. Could've been any number of other centre halves. In reality we needed 2 to replace both kos and mustafi

In reality United also needed a CB and couldn't find many alternatives to Macguire. It's not been an easy market to shop in.

I think they wanted a solid, big, English speaking centreback more than anything (and I sympathise with that view). In that sense the market was closed off maybe. An £80 million bid early in the window would surely have given them a pretty good chance of landing most defenders out there though. In the end they got skinned because they left it so late, just like we're failing with bids right now that would probably have been considered pretty good back in June.

Shady

Bold Tone wrote:
Shady wrote:
We needed Pepe.

Another season of Ozil/Mkhi starting is forfeiting top 4 again.

We could afford to sort both attack and defence this window.

Claudius wrote:
We needed both. And it's not an either/or situation.
The Upamecano rumours started as far back as May. So we have been looking into this situation. We didn't just stir yesterday and decide we want the Frenchman

51 goals against suggests the defence is the bigger problem by miles.

We've made a £60mil bid for Upamecano.

It may not have been enough to close the deal, but if we are willing to spend that sort of cash AFTER buying Pepe, then clearly we could have sorted both positions. Seems like we didn't plan our defensive signing strategy well. We only had cb links at the end of the window.

Signing Upamecano, but not Pepe still wouldn't have been good enough.

Clrnc

Can't blame Raul though. Edu joined late, Pepe returned from AFCON late to make a decision. After spending on our number 1 target + Saliba we have to see what else we are left with to buy.

Claudius

Bold Tone wrote:
Shady wrote:
We needed Pepe.

Another season of Ozil/Mkhi starting is forfeiting top 4 again.

We could afford to sort both attack and defence this window.

Claudius wrote:
We needed both. And it's not an either/or situation.
The Upamecano rumours started as far back as May. So we have been looking into this situation. We didn't just stir yesterday and decide we want the Frenchman

51 goals against suggests the defence is the bigger problem by miles.
https://www.skysports.com/premier-league-table/2018

Our inability to retain possession is part of our defensive woes. Bringing in Ceballos and Pepe will go a long way towards addressing this. We were so disjointed with the ball, and constantly putting ourselves on the back foot.

mdgoonah41

Shady wrote:
Bold Tone wrote:
51 goals against suggests the defence is the bigger problem by miles.

We've made a £60mil bid for Upamecano.

It may not have been enough to close the deal, but if we are willing to spend that sort of cash AFTER buying Pepe, then clearly we could have sorted both positions. Seems like we didn't plan our defensive signing strategy well. We only had cb links at the end of the window.

Signing Upamecano, but not Pepe still wouldn't have been good enough.

weve been linked to tierney for months now. they clearly know the defense needs sorting.

Klaus

Clrnc wrote:
Can't blame Raul though. Edu joined late, Pepe returned from AFCON late to make a decision. After spending on our number 1 target + Saliba we have to see what else we are left with to buy.

Of course you can blame him; it's literally his job to get this shit done. It's no different than being in charge of any other club.

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