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The Angel Gabriel (Martinelli)

Claudius

Our injury situation is great. Martinelli is our worst case. Parley and Gabriel could be on the bench vs Palace

Big Willie

Mirth wrote:
Gabriel Martinelli
Right ankle. Gabi turned his right ankle during the warm-up against Newcastle United on Saturday and was subsequently taken out of the starting line-up.
Gabi has progressed very well and we’re hoping that he will return to full training with the squad in the next few days.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/team-news-positive-news-martinelli-and-more

You guys can relax now.

Btw I'm pretty sure 'Grade 1' is just a technical term for sprain i.e. nothing to worry about.

As I was suspecting going by Arteta's comments yesterday. Didn't look like anything more than a sprain but I feared the worst when I'd heard tear.

I think we can all agree the lesson here is to wait for official news and to never to believe everything just because Simon says.

Claudius

Indeed. Sorry for the scare. Hopefully he’s back next Monday.

I’m expecting a slow season for Martinelli given the long layoff. Anything is a plus.

Mirth

Yes, we should prioritise Martinelli's health over the next few months and then he can replace Laca next season

goon

A medical type can correct me but a minor sprain can be a minor tear... it’s basically what a sprain is! Tear =/= rupture.

Claudius

goon wrote:
A medical type can correct me but a minor sprain can be a minor tear... it’s basically what a sprain is! Tear =/= rupture.

My understanding is that’s what it is. A tear or pull of the ligament.

KingslandBarge

I didn't think of it that way. First thing that comes to my mind with sprain is inflammation, not tear. No way some a person's connective tissue in the ankle ruptures and he or she is back sprinting in 2/3 weeks, surely.

jones

goon wrote:
A medical type can correct me but a minor sprain can be a minor tear... it’s basically what a sprain is! Tear =/= rupture.

It's the opposite I think actually. Rupture is the same as tear and can happen to muscles tendons and ligaments. Sprains can be light tears but only of ligaments.

goon

I guess it is 😆

What I was trying to say is a tear doesn't mean a complete tear/rupture, i.e. a grade 3 type injury, which is where a lot of people go to when they hear tear.

I had this discussion with someone last year, he refused to believe I'd 'torn' my calf muscle and got back to playing football within 4 weeks.

IBL

Good news. Perhaps we should exercise a bit more patience when bringing him back as we don't want him to become someone who picks up a lot of niggly injuries.

Big Willie

goon wrote:
I guess it is 😆

What I was trying to say is a tear doesn't mean a complete tear/rupture, i.e. a grade 3 type injury, which is where a lot of people go to when they hear tear.

I had this discussion with someone last year, he refused to believe I'd 'torn' my calf muscle and got back to playing football within 4 weeks.

We're not doctors goon. As non medically trained football supporters when we think tears we automatically assume it's a tear in the sense that it's completely ripped or at least pretty close. Otherwise we use colloquial terms such as sprains for minor versions.

Probably same reason why when we hear someone has torn their hamstring we don't think it's just a strain even though. Or when lifting weight you don't say you tore your biceps after a workout even though it's only because of those small tears that your muscles grow.

Sicario

IBL wrote:
Good news. Perhaps we should exercise a bit more patience when bringing him back as we don't want him to become someone who picks up a lot of niggly injuries.

Yes. Should be a super sub for next month or so until he can prove his fitness. Don’t want another Diaby on our hands.

banduan

Need to baby this guy. 2 light injuries already in the short time frame of his return.

Gazza M

his enthusiasm cuts both ways like jacks used to. he'll keep getting into injury trouble if he keeps haring around the pitch with reckless abandon

goon

Spraining your ankle after an awkward landing or getting a little graze off a wild keeper swing is hardly anything to worry about.

Disagree that he needs protection and wrapping up in cotton wool. Like ESR, I reckon he needs regular games to train his body.

Claudius

ESR mainly suffered from issues related to his body growing. Hopefully, he’s past that now

QuincyAbeyie

Gazza M wrote:
his enthusiasm cuts both ways like jacks used to. he'll keep getting into injury trouble if he keeps haring around the pitch with reckless abandon

I don't know, I personally feel that Jack's playstyle put him more at risk of injuries (and Im not one of those criticizing him for it, it was one of his strenghts). Martinelli doesn't pull the opponent towards himself and then gets away at the last millisecond the way Wilshere did.

banduan

yup Jack's ghosting technique got him perpetually fouled and he got scant protection from refs.

Claudius

Was that a Jack problem or a refereeing problem?

banduan

Claudius wrote:
Was that a Jack problem or a refereeing problem?

yes

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