Quincy Abeyie wrote:Ffs, I didn't even know before now that Spurs were still in the race.
Don’t stress about what you can’t control in the moment.
What will be will be.
William Saliba from St Etienne
Claudius wrote:Don’t stress about what you can’t control in the moment.
What will be will be.
Meatwad wrote:y'all are worried about nothing. they are still tottnumb. finishing a point ahead of us doesn't change that. no french player is choosing to play for tottenham over arsenal.
Ndombele says hi
Well to be fair the club never went in for Ndombele, much as we all would have loved him here.
Yeah most likely because we knew we had no chance of getting him. The cold reality is that Spurs are a more attractive prospect for the majority of players now. We look like a club on the decline, or at best stagnant, while they are ambitious and can offer champions league.
Or we just couldn’t afford him.
All part of the same problem.
Do not underestimate 3 years of Europa financials for a team carrying Champions League costs. We are hurting. The idea of taking on a £60m player when we can’t affford the players we are currently carrying is fantasy
flobaba wrote:Or we just couldn’t afford him.
More likely we never heard of him until he moved to Spurs. When Mislintat came he signed players like Guendouzi, evidence for someone actively looking for talents to sign. Now our scouting department is run by Barry Zuckerkorn from Arrested Development
Arsenal has decided to react to this advantage taken by its rival by aligning with the offer of Tottenham in recent hours! [@mohamedbouhafsi]
St Etienne for now, want to delay things, to study the player's wishes and see if the two clubs raise their offers. [@mohamedbouhafsi]
ASSE president confirms Saliba will be joining a Premier League team. And adds "Saliba is contacted by many clubs. We hope that the club and William are happy with what will happen in these days to come."
Meh, kinda boring now.
We really fumbled this. Should’ve wrapped it up weeks ago.
Reading between the lines it sounds like they want to drag things out to give Saliba time to change his mind. Small time wankers.
goon wrote:Reading between the lines it sounds like they want to drag things out to give Saliba time to change his mind. Small time wankers.
i see it a bit differently. i think we bid X, then spuds decided to bid Y, and we agreed to match Y, now they want to see if spuds will bid more, which will force us to bid more, because it seems like he wants to come here. they know we are a bit hapless, so they are willing to let us dangle in the wind.
What would suck (although not as much as not getting the player) is if aligning our offer with that of Spurs would mean paying the majority now so that it comes out of this summer's transfer budget after all.
But that would also mean we get him now instead of loaning him out.
Either way stupid of us once again not to seal the deal before others come in.
Clrnc wrote:But that would also mean we get him now instead of loaning him out.
Source for this?
Clrnc wrote:But that would also mean we get him now instead of loaning him out.
Either way stupid of us once again not to seal the deal before others come in.
i dont think thats the case. i think the agreement will still include that we loan him back, they just want the money up front, because spuds were offering to pay up front
Spurs need to get the player now because Aldeweireld is at risk of going to Serie A this summer. This is why they are hijacking our bid. It's not purely out of spite. They have a present need.
Yeah but ASSE aren't letting him go right now regardless of the fee are they?
mdgoonah41 wrote:Clrnc wrote:But that would also mean we get him now instead of loaning him out.
Either way stupid of us once again not to seal the deal before others come in.
i dont think thats the case. i think the agreement will still include that we loan him back, they just want the money up front, because spuds were offering to pay up front
Foyth, Sanchez, Saliba fighting out for two positions is the kind of ambition I have just never seen us have at centre-back. Djourou, Senderos, Song, Toure, Gallas is the closest it gets.
Well Foyth is a liability when he plays more often than not. He'd get crucified here. And it seems William Saliba won't be joining them either, so you can stop praising them for their hypotyhetical ambition now:
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The small time, worthless little cunts got what they wanted out of the bid though; a few million more will end up in Saint Etienne's coffers.
Hopefully they really did want Saliba and he told them to do one.
Recon we’ll land him Tricks?
jones wrote:Yeah but ASSE aren't letting him go right now regardless of the fee are they?
Yep. Whoever signs him won't get him until 2020
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:Recon we’ll land him Tricks?
Everything points to it, mate.
All the jounalists that matter on this deal have said Saliba wants to come here, not Spurs. That he agreed with us ages ago and made it clear to Saint Etienne what his wishes were, and they have been the reason it's been such a drawn our process.
he should eventually come here. it's just annoying that our financial difficulties are leaving us so exposed. we should've been able to settle this deal a long time ago - just ringence Saliba if not actually finalise all the paperwork; released Koscielny, and then focused on getting an immediate replacement for Koscielny to start this season.
I'm not so concerned about Saliba only coming next year. Liverpool paid over 50m pounds for Keita to come 15 months later. they similarly negotiated forever (including effectively paying penalties) to ensure they landed van Dijk. you just want to make sure you lock your rivals out.
St etienne sauces reckon its done. 5 year deal + 1 year loan.
29m + 7m in add-ons and 20% sell on
Hefty fee but if he is a deligt level thoroughbred for the next 5-6 years it will be worth it
20% sell on in addition to 29 + 7m pounds with a loan! Wow.
If PSG are buying a relatively well-developed Diallo for 29m pounds + 2m pounds in bonuses, I'm wondering if we got our asses handed to us.
Lets hope this guy is worth it, from what I've heard he seems to be incredibly highly rated.
Leave it to Arsenal to spend a month on negotiating only to end up with a deal worse than what St. Etienne initially wanted.
Quincy Abeyie wrote:Leave it to Arsenal to spend a month on negotiating only to end up with a deal worse than what St. Etienne initially wanted.
How much did they want initially? Was under the impression this was always going to be done around 25m-30m
Yeah but it reportedly didn't include a 20 percent sell-on clause.
Spurs really fucked us badly then. Oh well but at least we are getting him
The 20% sell on fee is the killer (i think caused by the spuds involvement) as i can see this guy being highly sought after if he is a success.
We can respond by jacking up his price like Palace have done with Zaha but at the risk of the guy running down his contract to get a move.
I'm sure there was always a sell-on in negotiations. We've paid the price for booking him early and have little to offer up front. I'm ok with it, good risk to take, won't slaughter them if it doesn't work out and not giving Spurs an ounce of credit.
Quincy Abeyie wrote:Leave it to Arsenal to spend a month on negotiating only to end up with a deal worse than what St. Etienne initially wanted.
Gazza M wrote:St etienne sauces reckon its done. 5 year deal + 1 year loan.
29m + 7m in add-ons and 20% sell on
Hefty fee but if he is a deligt level thoroughbred for the next 5-6 years it will be worth it
St. Etienne clearly haven't been watching us trying to sell players. Might as well have taken a 5m add-on for him winning the golden boot.
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Le Parisien saying it'a a done deal, and they seem to be implying there's no loan back.
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C'monnnnn no loan back.
Sokratis + one of Mustafi/Holding/Saliba is much better than Sokratis + Mustafi/Holding as Holding will be eased in.
I doubt we're getting him now. Would be fantastic if we were