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Serie A 2019/2020 Thread

Klaus

Think it's a pretty ridiculous goal regardless of whether there's a reflection or not. He beats both a defender and the goalkeeper a couple of times and when no one makes a run he decides to whip it in himself. Boss level.

MistaT

Quagliarella aging like a fine wine

Klaus

Probably didn't even feel that connect with his foot. It's such a clean hit.

Clrnc

For his standards it's a normal goal. Nothing special

mentalvortex

Huge favor done to Inter by Verona tonight who came back from a goal down to beat Juventus 2-1.

Inter will go atop of the table if they can beat Milan in the derby tomorrow.

Claudius

Rumor that Juve might look to cash in on Ramsey. Wouldn’t be surprised given how he’d been used and even potential need to raise funds for the Pogba back and forth.

Clrnc

He's negligible for them and for a tactically disciplined team like Juve it's hard to accommodate him and his loose positioning + awful touch. On many occasions his selfish nature in front of goal caused conflicts between him and his teammates according to Juve fans.

He came on last night and immediately Juve lost their shape, conceded twice and lost the game in the last 20 mins.

Claudius

It’s also a lesson to Arsenal fans. Some of the players we worshipped during the Gazidis era aren’t really upper echelon.

Ricky1985

Ramsey was never going to thrive in Sarri's rigid system. He's the opposite of what Sarri wants in a midfielder, and if he's not going to commit to regularly playing Ramsey as a second striker, it becomes really difficult to fit him in.

For me, Sarri is way out of his depth at Juventus, and I think Ramsey could still do well there once they sack Sarri.

Klaus

Ricky's got it right. That's what their fans think too. Most of them want Ramsey to start, just not as an attacking midfielder like Sarri uses him.

Sarri has made Juve less than the sum of their parts. Pjanic is hideous this season to the point where people want him sold and Rabiot, who I seem to recall most people here wanted, has been useless too. I think they'll swap their 'tactically disciplined' manager this summer.

Claudius

I’m not super convinced. The guy just got the job. Give him time to adapt. He still has the team top of the league as he tries to implement his system. Some of these same Juve fans complained Allegri was too negative. Now it’s oh, we are too dependent on Ronaldo and not expansive enough.

Lots of players have shone in the midfield. I just think Ramsey has failed to adapt, partially as you say due to to his lack of tactical discipline which was always a theme here. Let’s give it a whole season and see where it falls.

Klaus

You don't get time to adapt as a manager at a club like Juventus. You either start to see improvements fairly early or you get replaced. Right now he looks like the man that is going to lose them Serie A for the first time in a decade.

Claudius

He’s top of the league. Just because he’s lost 3 of 5 away games, it doesn’t mean you should now panic and lose your mind. Also don’t forget that this is a team that had to make an adjustment after a defensive catastrophe. People are panicking unnecessarily

Clrnc

He's not doing a bad job, but Klaus is right in the sense that he is under extreme pressure especially after losing the Italian Super Cup to Lazio

Klaus

Claudius wrote:
He’s top of the league.

With a game more played than Inter. The fact is that Conte is showing him up right now. There's no debate who's better of the two, and if Juve aren't careful they'll be the second or third best club in Italy over the next few years. Inter have money now and their squad is on the rise. No matter what happens this season they look like the main contender for the scudetto next year. Juve's squad is on their way down by contrast and Sarri has so far failed to reinvigorate them. I don't think he'll get more than a season under those circumstances.

speedy

Klaus wrote:
Ricky's got it right. That's what their fans think too. Most of them want Ramsey to start, just not as an attacking midfielder like Sarri uses him.

Sarri has made Juve less than the sum of their parts. Pjanic is hideous this season to the point where people want him sold and Rabiot, who I seem to recall most people here wanted, has been useless too. I think they'll swap their 'tactically disciplined' manager this summer.

I really hope they pop there tactically reckless attacking midfielder who comes alive in the final third to a deeper position. We lost 6-0 to every decent side when we tried that. I like juve but I'd quiet like to see how much there fans would loose there shit if that happened.

mentalvortex

Klaus wrote:
Claudius wrote:
He’s top of the league.

With a game more played than Inter. The fact is that Conte is showing him up right now. There's no debate who's better of the two, and if Juve aren't careful they'll be the second or third best club in Italy over the next few years. Inter have money now and their squad is on the rise. No matter what happens this season they look like the main contender for the scudetto next year. Juve's squad is on their way down by contrast and Sarri has so far failed to reinvigorate them. I don't think he'll get more than a season under those circumstances.

Completely agreed. Plus it is very personal for the Juve fanbase knowing who are masterminding the Inter revival.

Claudius

Ac Milan have started with a little bit of belief in the Derby della Madonnina. Lovely 20 yard strike off the upright from Calhanoglu. He looks good right behind Ibra with Kessie and our boy Bennacer behind

Claudius

The pensioner Ibra sets up Rebic with a header to make it 1-0 AC.

Claudius

Fuck me. Ibrahimovic with a bullet header to make it 2-0. Fun game.

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