The muppets in charge won’t change tactics, Raul is in this for his pension he couldn’t give a fuck about rebooting with younger players.
I expect around £80m to be spent on 3/4 Sokratis types, players who have no resale value.
How Will The Summer Go?
This is going to please so many people
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Kolasinac is his only goal threat, no wonder he’s desperate to keep him
Might as well give him the 10 shirt ffs.
Seriously how messed up is this club
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:Seriously how messed up is this club
We’re a self sufficient club that lets our best players leave on free transfers.
Says it all I think.
Shambolic. When was the last time we got rid of a player easily that needs to be got rid of?
Useless, and thanks Emery for making him so crucial to your philosophy!
Just deleted my arsenal podcasts. Doubt I want a blow by blow of Arsenal this summer. I’ll see the end result. When you’re in the weeds it’s hard to see the bigger picture also easy to take on the burden of Arsenal stress which is really not worth carrying since we aren’t making the decisions (apart from launching a protest to tell Josh to fuck off and take his dad with him). How many times does £40m go into Pepe? How many times does Fraser go into £40m? Of course £40m is a bullshit number, so why am I even doing this calculus?
Claudius wrote:Just deleted my arsenal podcasts. Doubt I want a blow by blow of Arsenal this summer. I’ll see the end result. When you’re in the weeds it’s hard to see the bigger picture also easy to take on the burden of Arsenal stress which is really not worth carrying since we aren’t making the decisions (apart from launching a protest to tell Josh to fuck off and take his dad with him). How many times does £40m go into Pepe? How many times does Fraser go into £40m? Of course £40m is a bullshit number, so why am I even doing this calculus?
40m is less than our new kit deal pays per year.
The only reason as to why they would use a figure below our new deal is so they can recoup their losses to break even - they have to maintain the façade that we are well run and profitable.
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Claudius wrote:Just deleted my arsenal podcasts. Doubt I want a blow by blow of Arsenal this summer. I’ll see the end result. When you’re in the weeds it’s hard to see the bigger picture also easy to take on the burden of Arsenal stress which is really not worth carrying since we aren’t making the decisions (apart from launching a protest to tell Josh to fuck off and take his dad with him). How many times does £40m go into Pepe? How many times does Fraser go into £40m? Of course £40m is a bullshit number, so why am I even doing this calculus?
LOLing at this post now. Apparently £40m does go into Pépé.
Despite Pepe and Saliba I still think it largely depends on what happens in the next 4 days. At a minimum I wan't Tierny done, but a quality centre back would make it perfect.
Another CM would make it perfect.
I’m fine with midfield and attack. We desperately need to solve defense. Right now we are fielding a single top 4 quality defender. That scares me. Would be advantageous if we had a quality CB like Ndicka or Mukiele who is also very comfortable filling in at fullback as needed.
What is our fascination with dribbling out from a packed penalty area or passing into crowds? Are these guys high?
Ainsley certainly looked high out there
My opinion is that they were under instruction to play out of the back all the time. What i think the coaches were trying to do is put the players through was a pressure situation that cannot be replicated on the training pitch. The reasoning would be that if they were able to do it against Barca in the Nou Camp, they should have confidence to do it anywhere. I say this as they know playing out from the back is a tactic used to force teams out of their defensive shells which is never going to be the case when the team is Barcelona and they are 1-nil down at home.
That is absolutely what's happening, Tone. What better way to train for that sort of thing? It makes good sense.
Yup, and they have to figure it out. However there has to be a set pattern or go to option(s) in terms of which of the midfielders or strikers would drop in to receive the ball. That’s where coaching has to work better - getting the passer open men and movement ahead of them. No point giving me instructions to pass it out when I have no options to pass it to.
Yeah Tierney is the minimum we should be looking at, but if no CB comes in we will be looking to play a 3 ideally again with Chambers Sokratis and Holding. Either 2 of those pairing will be a bit weak for my liking
flobaba wrote:Yup, and they have to figure it out. However there has to be a set pattern or go to option(s) in terms of which of the midfielders or strikers would drop in to receive the ball. That’s where coaching has to work better - getting the passer open men and movement ahead of them. No point giving me instructions to pass it out when I have no options to pass it to.
There is a long way to go. We didn't seem to make it easy by opening passing lanes. It all seemed so panicked. I feel like you need to both create the options and have folks who have the passing ability and composure to make this happen. The guys in our backline yesterday do not possess the latter quality. They were a bundle of nerves.
As much as we've praised Raul, as things stand at the moment we still haven't had a very good summer. If we sign Tierney, yes, and if we sign a CB then it would've been 10/10 for me, but at least one of them is needed for the window to be successful.
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Quincy Abeyie wrote:As much as we've praised Raul, as things stand at the moment we still haven't had a very good summer. If we sign Tierney, yes, and if we sign a CB then it would've been 10/10 for me, but at least one of them is needed for the window to be successful.
I'm not sure the two positions are equal. I don't think Tierney signing or not signing will make or break our season. Whereas, if we're stuck with what we have at centreback, I think that's going to have a big impact on what's possible this season.
If both positions are filled with good players, it has to be top 4 or P45 for Unai.
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Quincy Abeyie wrote:As much as we've praised Raul, as things stand at the moment we still haven't had a very good summer. If we sign Tierney, yes, and if we sign a CB then it would've been 10/10 for me, but at least one of them is needed for the window to be successful.
I'm not sure the two positions are equal. I don't think Tierney signing or not signing will make or break our season. Whereas, if we're stuck with what we have at centreback, I think that's going to have a big impact on what's possible this season.
If both positions are filled with good players, it has to be top 4 or P45 for Unai.
I worded myself poorly, as I would rather have a CB than an LB (although the fullbacks seem very important for Emery so an LB might be very important after all), it was more that although we've gotten Ceballos and Pepe in important positions, I won't be able to call this a successful window if we end up not strengthening the defense at all.
After learning about the horrible condition Two-Bob mentioned in the other thread I think our window would be far better without Tierney than with him
Either way, CB is far more important
If we do end the window without a single defensive signing then it's been a pretty average job all around.
Mirth wrote:If we do end the window without a single defensive signing then it's been a pretty average job all around.
Considering its painfully obvious to quite literally everyone that's where we need the most help, yeah. I like our signings, but we can't win every game 6-5
I think we'll see a bit of action before the window closes, even if its a lack lustre loan or two.
That said I think we are in more need of a left back than a CB. We have no options at LB that are up to it where as we have Sok and Holding at CB. As much as I don't really rate Sok he's still better than Monreal and Kolasinac.
I'm changing my opinion on what I'd prefer out of a CB and a LB every other day. A Sok and Holding pair is much better than Kola/Monreal on the left side, but if Holding isn't up for it when he gets back then it's a different scenario. Buying a LB and loaning a CB would be perfect, as we'd see after the season how Holding is doing and how Saliba's been doing in France.
Tbh I'll take what I can get - at this point there's so much scope for improvement in our back four that I'd even celebrate a better second choice right back.
Mirth wrote:Tbh I'll take what I can get - at this point there's so much scope for improvement in our back four that I'd even celebrate a better second choice right back.
I want a centre back more than anything. Even if Holding comes back quickly, he and Sokratis will need a 3rd body to rotate with. They can't play every game. And we can't afford to field the other options. We might as well play blindfolded.
Alright, we get it, you don't like Chambers.
I don’t think I was clear. I don’t trust any of them bar Sokratis and Holding
Still hope that there might be enough money there for a top centreback signing:
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Allegdedly Upamecano:
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Leipzig run a tight ship, if that's serious it needed to be early in the window.
of their 3 young french CBs Upanecano is the more calm and assured one. konate has the best physique, but is probably not ready for the jump this season.
Captain wrote:Leipzig run a tight ship, if that's serious it needed to be early in the window.
They've got until the end of the month to replace him.
They buy before they sell, so it would take an unbelievable offer.
Captain wrote:They buy before they sell, so it would take an unbelievable offer.
You mean like cash and a World Cup winning defender in exchange?
Too old.
I'd argue a CB is more important than a LB. Our options at LB are serviceable. I'm fine with Big Kola as starter and Monreal/Thompson as back up. If Sokratis and/or Holding are not available on the other hand we're fucked.