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Other clubs transfer thread summer 2019 edition (Official: Madrid sign Hazard)

Claudius

Ray wrote:
So in the end Rabiot went for a reported £120k a week and a £9m signing on fee, rather cheap considering the rumours that were going around.

Depends how you allocate the 9m pounds. You can either see it as an additional 30k/week or a £9m payment to Veronique. They did well in the end.

Klaus

ohboy!!! wrote:
arsedoc md wrote:
what on earth is a sean longstaff

apparently worth £50 million

Newcastle are crazy, I will be shocked if they are not relegated this season

It's a ridiculous price tag.

To be fair, though, a lot of people within Newcastle reckon he's the new Michael Carrick. I haven't seen the lad play a minute of football, but I heard Martin Keown say that he thinks Longstaff is a better talent than Declan Rice (who I rate a lot). Maybe he's a class prospect. It would explain why United are going for him so early too.

ohboy

Klaus wrote:
ohboy!!! wrote:
apparently worth £50 million

Newcastle are crazy, I will be shocked if they are not relegated this season

It's a ridiculous price tag.

To be fair, though, a lot of people within Newcastle reckon he's the new Michael Carrick. I haven't seen the lad play a minute of football, but I heard Martin Keown say that he thinks Longstaff is a better talent than Declan Rice (who I rate a lot). Maybe he's a class prospect. It would explain why United are going for him so early too.

If so, then he seems an incredible prospect.

But if he was that good, surely he would have played more than 9 games, although you could also ask why are united also in for him.

Just ridiculous how cheap Ashley seems to be, that he is now asking for £50 million for this kid!

Klaus

Yeah, it's completely insane. The whole transfer market is wrecked.

Bryant

Ricky1985 wrote:
It'll be to replace Eriksen.

If they also get Ceballos (not that I am an expert on the Spaniard by any means, but he looked very impressive at Euro U21s this summer) and are able to make a trio of Ceballos, Ndombele and Lo Celso work as a functioning midfield then I would be very surprised if they weren't a much better team next season than they were last.

They would still be a mile behind City and Liverpool basically in every other area of the pitch, so not too much to worry about really. But unless big things happen here in the next few weeks, they'd be a proper, solid distance ahead of us, as opposed to last season where, even ignoring the points difference, in terms of quality there really wasn't a huge amount in it.

I saw that Spurs were also after another Spanish U21 player, Dani Olmo. I wonder why we aren't interested in Olmo, but he appears to be stalling on that Spurs offer for one from Spain (Atletico).

Bryant

Di Marzio saying that Napoli is close to signing Elmas, looks like a promising talent from Fener.

arsedocmd

Bryant wrote:
I wonder why we aren't interested in Olmo,

I keep seeing these kind of sentences every so often , used nonchalantly like they're routine. What in our recent transfer or club history makes you think we'd be interested? I'm not deeply invested in the arsenal transfers as others so I'm curious.

Claudius

arsedoc md wrote:
Bryant wrote:
I wonder why we aren't interested in Olmo,

I keep seeing these kind of sentences every so often , used nonchalantly like they're routine. What in our recent transfer or club history makes you think we'd be interested? I'm not deeply invested in the arsenal transfers as others so I'm curious.

You would want us to be interested.
Our new reality is serious. There is a plain reason we aren’t competing with all the big clubs for these massive transfers. Gazidis and co used to boast that we could survive a year in Europa. They never bargained for 3 years in the wilderness while paying Mesut £18m a year. That’s simply unsustainable given our revenue shape.

The outcome of that is we need to be wily on incoming transfers. We need to stretch our dollars. Less Zaha and more undervalued players or slightly risky players who are on the cusp of blowing up (u20/u21 players).

So is not necessarily about our history but more about our new reality.

Bryant

arsedoc md wrote:
Bryant wrote:
I wonder why we aren't interested in Olmo,

I keep seeing these kind of sentences every so often , used nonchalantly like they're routine. What in our recent transfer or club history makes you think we'd be interested? I'm not deeply invested in the arsenal transfers as others so I'm curious.

He's the type of player that Emery envisioned Denis Suarez to be.

arsedocmd

I see. Denis Suarez barely played here and seemed to have no prupose and Emery hasn't been here long to form any trend so I didn't understand in what way like Suarez.

Tbh, I've struggled for a bit and gave up a while ago to understand any of this club's motives/aims. We brought in Ozil and didn't pursue any striker to play with him. And then we brought in Sanchez who, for all his brief solo heroics, wasn't really a fit. (He prolly would've been better at 10 or Laca-second striker role himself but that's for another day). All the while with serious defects all over the pitch. Then we seem to be investing in some youth with douzi,torreira etc and the club seems to be falling apart behind the scenes. What really is going on, it's hard to make sense. I have a theory but it's too depressing.

Claudius

Go on

arsedocmd

I'll prolly form my thoughts a bit and create a new thread but somebody please answer me this....With Tottenham's new stadium, will they be able to compete with us for transfers and wages now? Everyone been saying that this is only a temprary blip for us and wages will catch up for the spurs cos they're a smaller club. Doesn't the new stadium change that?

Clrnc

arsedoc md wrote:
I see. Denis Suarez barely played here and seemed to have no prupose and Emery hasn't been here long to form any trend so I didn't understand in what way like Suarez.

Tbh, I've struggled for a bit and gave up a while ago to understand any of this club's motives/aims. We brought in Ozil and didn't pursue any striker to play with him. And then we brought in Sanchez who, for all his brief solo heroics, wasn't really a fit. (He prolly would've been better at 10 or Laca-second striker role himself but that's for another day). All the while with serious defects all over the pitch. Then we seem to be investing in some youth with douzi,torreira etc and the club seems to be falling apart behind the scenes. What really is going on, it's hard to make sense. I have a theory but it's too depressing.

Actually it is not really rocket science is it?

We just need to decide on a style we want to play. Appoint a manager who can deliver that distinct style and execute it with the players with proper training.

Sign the players who fit that style and remove those who doesn't. Don't target round pegs for square holes.

We haven't even manage to do the first. Now we scattergun the market.

Ray

Fekir going for £26m to Betis.

ohboy

Ray wrote:
Fekir going for £26m to Betis.

Looks like Spurs are signing Lo Celso

HomeSteak

[Esto Es Atleti] : Real Madrid and Atletico have reached an agreement for the transfer of James Rodriguez. Real Madrid will receive €50M + variables.

Tomorrow he will sign for Napoli.

Duncan Castles: Manchester United offer of £60m plus £20m of bonuses that @garbosj reported on Friday’s podcast has now been agreed with Leicester City. Record transfer fee for a central defender.

Harry Maguire costs 80 mil.

Bartomeu admits paying Griezmann's €120 million release clause was a 'complex' deal. Barcelona have had to take out a loan of €35m to pay the fee outright (they wanted to pay in installments).

They had to take a loan. No way the can afford Neymar if they don't sell. Dembele, Coutinho and Malcom should be available for the right money.

Steve Bruce has agreed to join boyhood club Newcastle — as the Premier League's lowest paid manager with his basic pay pegged at £1million a year, when predecessor Rafa Benitez was getting a £6m annual wage.

Official: Maxi Gomez signs with Valencia

Oliver Torres to Sevilla: Atlético have a 15% sell-on and also retain a 4% clause on his transfer fee because they developed him. If Sevilla buy him for €12m, Porto would only receive €9.7m - less than half of what they paid for him in 2017.

FC Bayern close to sign Ajax player Hakim Ziyech for 30 million euros. Hasan Salihamidzic already met with Ziyech's agent Mustapha Nakhli to conclude the deal.

Not good enough for Arsenal but good enough for Bayern ?

Mauro Icardi threatens Inter: "I'll stay here for two years, take my salary and I won’t move"

Classy guy.

Claudius

Ziyech good enough to join Gnabry at Bayern. Team of rejects.
Barcelona sound like they're barely solvent.Uefa should take a peek
Diego Simeone integrating Joao Felix and Rodriguez sounds almost implausible. What's he doing with his strikers?
As for Icardi, he's just voicing what Mesut's and Mustafi are doing over here

Thanks as always for your summary

Ricky1985

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I have Rafael Leão down as the breakout star of Ligue Une next season. Been waiting for big clubs to start getting linked to him all summer. It would be a massive coup for Everton to get him. It might take him a while to get up to Premier League speed and leading the line for a team like Everton, but the kid is a proper talent.

It's a shame Arsenal haven't moved for him.

Claudius

I tried to watch a Leao highlight video but it was mostly just Lille’s number 19 taking on 2 or 3 guys and setting him up. Maybe we should get that guy

Ricky1985

Pépé is undoubtedly the star of the team, and the main reason they finished second, but Leão is something a bit special himself.

6'2", very fast and strong, athletic, good touch, a nose for goal, good running in behind, good ball-striking, composed finsishing. Only 19 years old. I'm convinced he's going to be a top striker.

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