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  • Other clubs transfer thread summer 2019 edition (Official: Madrid sign Hazard)

Bryant wrote:
Claudius wrote:

So annoying. I really like Mancini.
It feels like our club is inert.  We could be refreshing our back line with a guy like this. He’ll probably end up being as good as 70m pound Maguire

I don't think many top Italian players leave Italy if given the choice between an Italian and English/foreign side. 

I suspect they’re rarely given the choice. Why do so many of their top managers follow the big bucks to London? If clubs do their job instead of lumping 70m on Maguire, then we will see two things - more Italians and more sensible pricing on Englishmen. The English premium is the best example of gross mismanagement

Claudius wrote:
Bryant wrote:

I don't think many top Italian players leave Italy if given the choice between an Italian and English/foreign side. 

I suspect they’re rarely given the choice. Why do so many of their top managers follow the big bucks to London? If clubs do their job instead of lumping 70m on Maguire, then we will see two things - more Italians and more sensible pricing on Englishmen. The English premium is the best example of gross mismanagement

You make a good point Claude about Italian players not given a choice. 

However, I feel like most Italian players dream of playing for a top Italian side like their English (Wilfried Zaha) counterparts do. Mancini grew up as a huge Inter and Marco Materazzi fan. 

Both us and Inter are trying to use this our advantage with Nicolo Barella recently refusing to talk to Roma as he only wants Inter.

Agree. But other than Juventus, these clubs can’t match the English teams for wages. All the talented kids at Roma could easily be absorbed by top 6 clubs. It would be sad for Serie A, but would be a massive upgrade on some of the scouting done by United and Arsenal especially.

Meh. We get Tierney, Zaha and a good centreback we’ll have improved far more then they will have

It’s the middle that holds everything together. I feel like we have a hole where the heart should be.

I think it'll ne Lo Celso or Ceballos for Eriksen. Neither of those two are in the same class as the player they're going to lose.

Claudius wrote:

It’s the middle that holds everything together. I feel like we have a hole where the heart should be.

Torreira-Pulgar-Ceballos would be a very good central midfield and would cost all of £10m this summer.

Pulgar ahead of Xhaka would be a promising gamble. I like his passing range and tackling ability. Would be nice if he was a little more two footed, but he looks better than Xhaka. Wondering if safer to keep Xhaka or best to sell him to fund Ceballos/winger.

People are signing Ndombele and Rodri, Pulgar is bang average.

Those guys are also £60m. Are you or Stan chipping in?

Clrnc wrote:

People are signing Ndombele and Rodri, Pulgar is bang average.

We have to do that as those are Champions League clubs.
Manu are trying to match them and have ended up having to bribe players.

Whatever United are doing is not normal. They’ve inflated everyone simultaneously. It’s part of why we have to get rid of Ozil. He was creating an expectation for guys like Ramsey around what they were worth. With Ozil off the team, it’s easier to negotiate with players on board about what’s possible going forward. Otherwise we’ll end paying a Rashford 200k/ week

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9450621/alvaro-morata-chelsea-58m-permanent-transfer-atletico-madrid/
Elsewhere, 58m pounds doesn’t get you much these days

Chelsea must love doing deals with Atletico

Atletico aren’t great financial stewards. If they call regarding Lacazette, we should do them and rebuild our team.

Joachim Andersen is being sold for 24m euros + 6m in bonuses to Lyon according to Samp's president.

I would never imagine Atletico being so much richer than us just 6 years ago.

Claudius wrote:

Whatever United are doing is not normal. They’ve inflated everyone simultaneously. It’s part of why we have to get rid of Ozil. He was creating an expectation for guys like Ramsey around what they were worth. With Ozil off the team, it’s easier to negotiate with players on board about what’s possible going forward. Otherwise we’ll end paying a Rashford 200k/ week

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9450621/alvaro-morata-chelsea-58m-permanent-transfer-atletico-madrid/
Elsewhere, 58m pounds doesn’t get you much these days

This is true but it's not just Ozil.
We have been unable to offload players as poor as Jenkinson for several years because nobody will match their wages.
spurs who utilise bonuses much more than all the other clubs around them have players easy to sell and mostly only, handsomely, reward the deserving players.
https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/spurs-wages-revealed-kane-levy-14343179

Clrnc wrote:

I would never imagine Atletico being so much richer than us just 6 years ago.

They received close to 300m for just three players tbf


We should be looking for around 35m for Chambers judging by the market prices.


The hammers meant business