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Other clubs transfer thread summer 2019 edition (Official: Madrid sign Hazard)

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Claudius

They don’t have a galactico level player. De Bruyne is butter but doesn’t sit at high table with Neymar, Mbappe and co. This gives Pep an opportunity to have a likely galactico. He better than anyone knows the difference this makes

ohboy

Claudius wrote:
They don’t have a galactico level player. De Bruyne is butter but doesn’t sit at high table with Neymar, Mbappe and co. This gives Pep an opportunity to have a likely galactico. He better than anyone knows the difference this makes

Scary to think City are not in their final form.

Personally I thought Hazard would have been the perfect signing, but seems he had his heart set on Real.

arsedocmd

Claudius wrote:
They don’t have a galactico level player. De Bruyne is butter but doesn’t sit at high table with Neymar, Mbappe and co. This gives Pep an opportunity to have a likely galactico. He better than anyone knows the difference this makes

😆 ouch

Claudius

Lol. It’s true though. In the Premier League, you can create a stable system built on lots of high quality players that just beasts through a 38 game season by constantly outperforming the bottom 15 teams. When you get to Champions League, however, and the opponents are all really strong, then it helps to have a galactico who can rise above the deadlock with a moment of brilliance. Every advantage counts here. You have one chance, or Spurs knocks you out and all your hard work is undone

Bryant

Clrnc wrote:
Daniel James for 15m is a really good signing IMO. We should be picking up smart signings like this from lower division if we are skint.

He has incredible speed. One of the fastest players out there: https://streamja.com/v5e5

Could be a massive bargain for them if he has more consistent end product.

Jed

Claudius wrote:
Lol. It’s true though. In the Premier League, you can create a stable system built on lots of high quality players that just beasts through a 38 game season by constantly outperforming the bottom 15 teams. When you get to Champions League, however, and the opponents are all really strong, then it helps to have a galactico who can rise above the deadlock with a moment of brilliance. Every advantage counts here. You have one chance, or Spurs knocks you out and all your hard work is undone

I would argue that Aguero is every bit that type of player.

Ray

Surprised at how much Real paid for Hazard considering he's going to be 29 in 7 months.

Claudius

Ray wrote:
Surprised at how much Real paid for Hazard considering he's going to be 29 in 7 months.

They've been locked out of winning the title for several years. The AMs who are noticeably better than him (Neymar and Mbappe) would cost double up-front. Beyond that, AMs of that class are in short supply. You need to go down a level to the Pepe and Sane class.

deardevil

Hazard screams more like Kaka than he does C. Ronaldo. Left it a little too late. Think he will be quite underwhelming there.

Claudius

Hazard will kill it there. He's never going to get Ronaldo numbers - that man is a mutant. But he will be a massive upgrade on whatever is happening there right now. Will be a solid ₂₀-8 player, which will be great if their new striker hits the ground running as well.

Klaus

Not sure about Hazard either. He'll probably produce in his first six months to show off, but the bloke is fundamentally a bullshit player. His mentality is sorely lacking. He'll throw a hissy fit after a while and stop playing. He was one of the main reasons the chavs were heading for relegation the season Mourinho got fired. Chelsea was the sort of club that enables players like that, and now he's moving to another one in Real Madrid. He's slowing down soon and I bet these problems are going to surface once more when the going gets tough. I really can't see him staying his entire four-year contract.

Claudius

A lot of his down production is due to downing tools though, not due to a fundamental ability to turn it on for long periods like Mkhi and Ozil. You are correct that this Pogba-esque moodiness is an issue. However, if things are right with Zidane and the team, I think he has a grand time.

arsedocmd

and they still have to go through messi anyways

Claudius

A Messi with a sub-standard coach, but some midfield reinforcement. Should be interesting

Gunner89

Hazard penalties aside must have scored a similar haul to what Alexis did in 3 1/2 years here.

Jovic looks a good signing.

Claudius

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9258961/man-utd-deal-sign-70m-bruno-fernandes/

Bruno Fernandes United rumor. Not sure what to believe with United because obviously their fans drive so much web traffic, but one things for sure - the numbers being thrown around suggest that the new Premier League deal is going to have a big impact on the transfer market. We could see another step change in fees this summer. Just look for the median players. Bruno Fernandes feels like your typical 50m pound Manchester City transfer. 70m is a different ballgame.

Won't be as marked for us as we are playing in the speculators and bargain hunters end of the spectrum. There, the impacts shouldn't be as crazy, I hope. As long as we are smart.

Klaus

Claudius wrote:
You are correct that this Pogba-esque moodiness is an issue. However, if things are right with Zidane and the team, I think he has a grand time.

I think it's unfair to call it Pogba-esque. Pogba has been flakey for United but he was brilliant for years on end in Italy. I've never seen Hazard reach either that kind of consistency or that high level of football.

QuincyAbeyie

I agree that Hazard hasn't reached that kind of consistency but he's definitely reached that high level of football. Hazard's peak is much higher than what Pogba showed at Juve, he wasn't their best midfielder when he was sold.

Klaus

He wasn't, but I think all four Juve midfielders back then were playing at a significantly higher level than Hazard. He's a very good player, but for me he has never reached the top tier.

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