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Monchi rumoured to be appointed Arsenal sporting director

Klaus

A look at the list above should calm your worries a little bit. We rave about Sven finding Guendouzi, but in Zaniolo, Ünder and Pellegrini, Roma have brought in three better or equal talents during the same time frame, despite Monchi working under financial restrictions.

QuincyAbeyie

Personally I would never trade Guendouzi for Pellegrini.

goon

Klaus wrote:
A look at the list above should calm your worries a little bit. We rave about Sven finding Guendouzi, but in Zaniolo, Ünder and Pellegrini, Roma have brought in three better or equal talents during the same time frame, despite Monchi working under financial restrictions.

Fair enough. Admittedly aside from Ünder I know very little about the other two.

Claudius

goon wrote:
Klaus wrote:
A look at the list above should calm your worries a little bit. We rave about Sven finding Guendouzi, but in Zaniolo, Ünder and Pellegrini, Roma have brought in three better or equal talents during the same time frame, despite Monchi working under financial restrictions.

Fair enough. Admittedly aside from Ünder I know very little about the other two.

Watch a few Serie A games when you get a chance. That league is criminally underrated. Roma is especially a good watch. Those 3 players Klaus mentioned a gems. The team also has Dzeko who I think was under-appreciated in his time in England. A thoroughly talented 9. And then there's also Kluivert who's an interesting left wing option at 19, though currently not as exciting as Zaniolo and Under.

MistaT

Kluivert been able to kick on?

Seemed many thought the jump to Roma was too much too soon.

Klaus

I'm not sure if the step up was too big but Roma is a difficult place to be at the moment, and even more so if you're trying to adapt to a new country and a new club I imagine. Kluivert's been a non-factor and will probably be sent on loan somewhere next year, but there ain't no shame in that. People forget how young he is; he's no older than Reiss Nelson. He's one for the future.

Either way, no point in pretending that every signing Monchi has made is brilliant. They can't all be. If Roma had been a normal club they would have kept the likes of Allison, Rüdiger, Salah and Nainggolan though while adding Pellegrini, Zaniolo, Ünder, et al. They would have been so much stronger for it. As straight replacements the kids will always get shown up in the short term.

goon

Monchi already getting to work...

Gunner89

Claudius wrote:
goon wrote:
Fair enough. Admittedly aside from Ünder I know very little about the other two.

Watch a few Serie A games when you get a chance. That league is criminally underrated. Roma is especially a good watch. Those 3 players Klaus mentioned a gems. The team also has Dzeko who I think was under-appreciated in his time in England. A thoroughly talented 9. And then there's also Kluivert who's an interesting left wing option at 19, though currently not as exciting as Zaniolo and Under.

Dzeko was a bargain signing for them at an overall cost of 15m euros having just turned 29.

Anzac

Gunner89 wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Watch a few Serie A games when you get a chance. That league is criminally underrated. Roma is especially a good watch. Those 3 players Klaus mentioned a gems. The team also has Dzeko who I think was under-appreciated in his time in England. A thoroughly talented 9. And then there's also Kluivert who's an interesting left wing option at 19, though currently not as exciting as Zaniolo and Under.

Dzeko was a bargain signing for them at an overall cost of 15m euros having just turned 29.

IIRC Dzeko was highly regarded here when he signed for MC, and still so when they sold him.

ohboy

Ünder would be incredible.

He along with another winger, would be just what we need. The problem is money, to get the wingers, CB, LB and midfielder we need, it is going to take quite a bit money.

We are going to have to sacrifice somewhere along the line.

Also, is it worth going really big on a position or two, and deal with the other positions later?

QuincyAbeyie

I would not sacrifice anything in the CB department to get two wingers. One will do.

Meatwad

we don't need to buy two wingers. one is more than enough plus reiss. and we need an elite CB (or one that will be viewed as such after a season with us), not two "good" CBs, we already have two good ones.

flobaba

Plus Saka is coming through and he’ll look like a new signing!

goon

In all seriousness it's something to consider. If you have top young prospects coming through you need to factor it in. These kids are becoming more and more in demand from a younger age, so if they see their pathway blocked they'll have no issues leaving on the cheap. Talk of Sancho moving for £100m odd to United/PSG, City lost him for peanuts and then spent £70m on Mahrez.

Meatwad

out of sight out of mind ... actually we have 3 good CBs with holding.

Meatwad

goon wrote:
In all seriousness it's something to consider. If you have top young prospects coming through you need to factor it in. These kids are becoming more and more in demand from a younger age, so if they see their pathway blocked they'll have no issues leaving on the cheap. Talk of Sancho moving for £100m odd to United/PSG, City lost him for peanuts and then spent £70m on Mahrez.

great example. they can afford to do nonsense like that, we can't. chelsea thought they were that kind of club too (de bruyne, lukaku, etc) until roman's money spigot turned off.

flobaba

goon wrote:
In all seriousness it's something to consider. If you have top young prospects coming through you need to factor it in. These kids are becoming more and more in demand from a younger age, so if they see their pathway blocked they'll have no issues leaving on the cheap. Talk of Sancho moving for £100m odd to United/PSG, City lost him for peanuts and then spent £70m on Mahrez.

Great point. I actually made the statement only slightly tongue in cheek. Although I like his skill set, I really don’t know how close Saka is to the first team, and more importantly, with how fickle many of our fans are nowadays, and how desperate we are for instant success we are more likely to destroy the boy’s confidence than develop him properly if things aren’t properly managed.

Even Sancho good as he is shows his immaturity sometimes, and showed it quite a bit earlier this season with Dortmund. Our fans just don’t have the patience for anyone that’s not a Guendouzi level talent from day 1, and we need to realize that those are the exceptions rather than the norm

ohboy

Meatwad wrote:
we don't need to buy two wingers. one is more than enough plus reiss. and we need an elite CB (or one that will be viewed as such after a season with us), not two "good" CBs, we already have two good ones.

For me one incredible CB, plus a winger and if possible a full back, preferably LB

Let us see how much money we will have in the summer.

MistaT

Doubt we'll sign a LB when we have Kola and Monreal.

Ship Mustafi, get a proper CB in, and then let one of Sokratis/Holding lead us forward as we let Koscielny fade out.

My prioritized signings: CB > LWF (to compete with Iwobi) > RB (to compete with Bellerin)

Clrnc

Yeah those 3 are really priorities. CM is okay for now, we can let Niles play there.

Wan Bissaka, Bailey and De Ligt is the dream.

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