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Claudius

The basic fact is Republicans stop M4A with their archaic Cold War thinking. They have their extremists marching in the streets of Washington calling for the imprisonment or killing of communists and Jews.
Democrats have tried M4A policy. Biden has been there twice. He’s seen it fail twice. It’s a bit like attitudes on guns. They made a big push but the legislative systems are set up to block progress. They favor the status quo, as repressive and backward as it may be. This is a country where it took Mississippi 60 years to ratify women’s enfranchisement

Speaking of Mississippi, last week a Republican lawmaker called for secession. Maybe some states should do that. West coast states, for example, could secede, enact progressive legislation and stop distributing their funds to Mississippi no problem.

Gazza M

Trump personally called those gop electors in Michigan, and they magically tried to rescind the certification the following day. Thankfully there's no legal path forward, just another example of the lengths this piece of shit will go to

Burnwinter

Claudius wrote:
Democrats have tried M4A policy. Biden has been there twice. He’s seen it fail twice. It’s a bit like attitudes on guns. They made a big push but the legislative systems are set up to block progress. They favor the status quo, as repressive and backward as it may be.

I mean "the legislative systems are set up to block progress" more or less sums up why US democracy isn't serving the public interest. And of course, it is all due to federalism and its protection of states' rights. We've got a similar structure here but it's nowhere near as bad because of the relative socioeconomic homogeneity of the administrative divisions.

Gazza M

Claudius wrote:
The basic fact is Republicans stop M4A with their archaic Cold War thinking. They have their extremists marching in the streets of Washington calling for the imprisonment or killing of communists and Jews.
Democrats have tried M4A policy. Biden has been there twice. He’s seen it fail twice. It’s a bit like attitudes on guns. They made a big push but the legislative systems are set up to block progress. They favor the status quo, as repressive and backward as it may be. This is a country where it took Mississippi 60 years to ratify women’s enfranchisement

Speaking of Mississippi, last week a Republican lawmaker called for secession. Maybe some states should do that. West coast states, for example, could secede, enact progressive legislation and stop distributing their funds to Mississippi no problem.

When did democrats try for M4A? Obama and biden certainly weren't for it

Claudius

They actually were. You need to look at the history of all these laws and go back to their very conception. They go through several iterations over years before their final iteration. And the same goes for Hillary Clinton. She led a commission for M4A as the First Lady. It blew up spectacularly after over a year of working on it. Republicans just waited and tossed it out. Gingrich said some garbage about needing to listen to Republicans but they were never interested in it/her.

So it’s always incredibly annoying to hear all the folks on this forum who call Obama and Clinton rRepublicans and corporate stooges etc., because it feels like there is a complete lack of historical context. The only difference between them and people like AOC and Bernie is that they have been in the ring with cynical men like Newt and Mitt.

Gazza M

That's not entirely true. Obama has walked back his stance on M4A since his early senate days. he never made it a central policy pillar in his election bids which would have given him the mandate from the people to get it done. Yes the other side wouldve accused him of radical socialism, but they called him that anyway, just like they absurdly call biden that today. I wouldnt classify obama as a corporate stooge, but it cant be argued that he was overly donor friendly at the minimum

jones

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Claudius

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Wow! And that’s before we get to the absolutely crazy stuff that he and Sydney Powell were saying yesterday. Of course they brought up the Bond supervillain George Soros, a mysterious cabal in Frankfurt that manipulates vote counts, the usual racism about black citizens. It was crazy wrapped in lunacy. And Rudy’s hair dye was streaming down the sides of his face. Probably wiped that down with his booger-filled handkerchief.

QuincyAbeyie

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jones

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Wow! And that’s before we get to the absolutely crazy stuff that he and Sydney Powell were saying yesterday. Of course they brought up the Bond supervillain George Soros, a mysterious cabal in Frankfurt that manipulates vote counts, the usual racism about black citizens. It was crazy wrapped in lunacy. And Rudy’s hair dye was streaming down the sides of his face. Probably wiped that down with his booger-filled handkerchief.

Damn I didn't catch that. What did we do now?

Gazza M

Even fox pundits said that presser was nuts. Rudy out here melting out of his ears

Claudius

There are different versions of these stories.

CLAIM: The U.S. Army raided the Frankfurt office of the Spanish election software company Scytl to seize servers that had evidence of voting irregularities in the Nov. 3 U.S. election.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Both the Army and Scytl told The Associated Press the claim is not true. Furthermore, Scytl does not have offices or servers in Frankfurt, Germany.

THE FACTS: Social media users Saturday were sharing reports published by conservative websites claiming servers that would reveal wrongdoing in the U.S. election had been confiscated by U.S. military forces in Germany. Most posts said the servers belong to the software company Scytl, which is based in Barcelona, and some suggested the servers housed information from Dominion Voting Systems.

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The false claims followed a Zoom call this week that featured Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas, suggesting that “U.S. Army forces” had seized servers from a Frankfurt office of the software company Scytl.

In his remarks, which were widely shared on social media, Gohmert acknowledged that the information about the alleged raid only came from a “German tweet in German,” and he said, “I don’t know the truth.”

The Associated Press reached out to Gohmert’s spokesperson but did not hear back.

In his recorded remarks, Gohmert said he had heard from “former intel people” that Scytl maintained data that could be “gleaned” to prove Republican votes had been changed to Democratic ones in the Nov. 3 election.

But, according to the company, Scytl does not tally votes. Nor is there credible evidence Republican votes were changed to Democratic votes in the election.

George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign adviser who pleaded guilty in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe, tweeted on Friday afternoon: “Breaking: Congressman Louie Ghomert has stated that The U.S. Army has seized servers for Dominion in Germany.”

When asked by The Associated Press if the Army had engaged in an operation to recover servers in Germany, an Army spokesperson responded Saturday, “Those allegations are false.”

goon

That whole posse is like a cross between something you'd see in Arrested Development and Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

y va marquer

Our goal here is to go around the outrageous Iron Curtain of censorship and get facts to the American people.

Lunatic

Gazza M

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Its a good thing biden won by so many electoral college votes, and that the trump 'legal team' is so hopeless

QuincyAbeyie

Made even funnier by one of the campaign advisors describing the legal team as "an elite strike force". 😆

jones

They're like the Expendables except everyone's got Alzheimers.

goon

How is that possible ffs 😆

y va marquer

“I had an idea, with the world so divided and everybody telling [Trump] he’s got to give up, and it’s time to leave, and the time to transition and all the rest of it, why not name the vaccine ‘The Trump,'”

You know, make it like: ‘Have you got your Trump yet?’ You know, it’d be a nice gesture to him, and years from now would become just a kind of a generic game. ‘Have you got your Trump yet now?’ ‘I got my Trump. I’m fine,'”

“I wish we could honor him in that way because he is definitely the prime architect of this Operation Warp Speed. And but for him, we’d still be waiting into the grim winter for these amazing, miraculous medical breakthroughs.

Geraldo negotiating to get Trump to give up

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Klaus

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