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Kel Varnsen

If Trump wins the biggest loser is not Biden or the Democrats. It's Nate Silver and the pollsters. I looked at some of the polls and projections leading up to the election, and Biden was crushing Trump in pretty much all of them. Did they learn nothing from 2016?

y va marquer

Apparently not.

Qwiss

y va marquer wrote:
I saw an exit poll that showed he was only ahead in the male, white and over 65 category.

Those stats are the change from 2016 to 2020, not the totals.

Qwiss

Kel Varnsen wrote:
If Trump wins the biggest loser is not Biden or the Democrats. It's Nate Silver and the pollsters. I looked at some of the polls and projections leading up to the election, and Biden was crushing Trump in pretty much all of them. Did they learn nothing from 2016?

How Nate Silver manager to not only stay relevant but grow the FiveThirtyEight brand since 2016 is mind boggling.

Claudius

Qwiss! wrote:

Massive indictment of Biden and the Dems there.

Did they carry out that exit poll all month or on the the actual Election Day?

Qwiss

Any word on how Kanye did?

Daz

Biden now ahead in Wisconsin?

Claudius

Qwiss! wrote:
Any word on how Kanye did?

At least 50k total votes last I saw. Some hanging door chads

y va marquer

Qwiss! wrote:
y va marquer wrote:
I saw an exit poll that showed he was only ahead in the male, white and over 65 category.

Those stats are the change from 2016 to 2020, not the totals.

Oh right, either way it's a depressingly predictable s*** show.

The notion that Biden, the throwback candidate, was the man to bring a disintegrating America back from the brink has proved a catastrophic error.

Even if he does squeak through he hasn't got the power or the personality to deal with what's coming down the tracks.

Claudius

Daz wrote:
Biden now ahead in Wisconsin?

+0,3%
This is what Trump wants to discredit.
Come on, Michigan

Clrnc

Claudius wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
Any word on how Kanye did?

At least 50k total votes last I saw. Some hanging door chads

Yeah he has reluctantly conceded defeat and vow to be back in 2024. Good man

Mirth

Biden now a slight favourite.

Gazza M

nevada looks tight too. pollsters really going into the bin after this

KingslandBarge

y va marquer wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
Those stats are the change from 2016 to 2020, not the totals.

Oh right, either way it's a depressingly predictable s*** show.

The notion that Biden, the throwback candidate, was the man to bring a disintegrating America back from the brink has proved a catastrophic error.

Even if he does squeak through he hasn't got the power or the personality to deal with what's coming down the tracks.

Looks a difficult task (if presented in the first place) but he's picked a VP that could enable a more united and collaborative dynamic than usual and compensate for his individual vulnerabilities.

Mirth

KingslandBarge wrote:
y va marquer wrote:
Oh right, either way it's a depressingly predictable s*** show.

The notion that Biden, the throwback candidate, was the man to bring a disintegrating America back from the brink has proved a catastrophic error.

Even if he does squeak through he hasn't got the power or the personality to deal with what's coming down the tracks.

Looks a difficult task (if presented in the first place) but he's picked a VP that could enable a more united and collaborative dynamic than usual and compensate for his individual vulnerabilities.

I was under the impression that Harris isn't particularly well liked either.

Klaus

Gazza M wrote:
nevada looks tight too. pollsters really going into the bin after this

They have absolutely no clue. They missed Sanders's popularity in the primary too. Out of touch with every single demographic except the old and white people, just like the Biden campaign.

Gazza M

Mirth wrote:
KingslandBarge wrote:
Looks a difficult task (if presented in the first place) but he's picked a VP that could enable a more united and collaborative dynamic than usual and compensate for his individual vulnerabilities.

I was under the impression that Harris isn't particularly well liked either.

she was resoundingly rejected as a presidential candidate, but might be more palatable as a VP

Clrnc

Bookies odds has swung dramatically to Biden now. He's the favorite

jones

Qwiss! wrote:
Kel Varnsen wrote:
If Trump wins the biggest loser is not Biden or the Democrats. It's Nate Silver and the pollsters. I looked at some of the polls and projections leading up to the election, and Biden was crushing Trump in pretty much all of them. Did they learn nothing from 2016?

How Nate Silver manager to not only stay relevant but grow the FiveThirtyEight brand since 2016 is mind boggling.

It was a garbage website before 2016 and it's still trash.

Qwiss

KingslandBarge wrote:
y va marquer wrote:
Oh right, either way it's a depressingly predictable s*** show.

The notion that Biden, the throwback candidate, was the man to bring a disintegrating America back from the brink has proved a catastrophic error.

Even if he does squeak through he hasn't got the power or the personality to deal with what's coming down the tracks.

Looks a difficult task (if presented in the first place) but he's picked a VP that could enable a more united and collaborative dynamic than usual and compensate for his individual vulnerabilities.

But Kamala wasn't popular at all in the primaries.

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