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Burnwinter

Well of course he won't beat Trump if he's persistently white-anted by his own party, but that's a party issue, not an issue with his candidacy.

It's clear he'd have a compelling message and differentiation from Trump come November if he were backed, and polls show him performing strongly head to head.

Coombs

Burnwinter wrote:
If the focus was on getting Trump out then Sanders would be the nominee.

This is a stone cold fact. I'd go as far as to say they prefer Trump to Sanders.

Burnwinter

They don't want a social democrat for President, because they don't want economic redistribution or the institution of new public goods. It's extremely short-sighted even for the capitalist and managerial classes given the bleak horizon of America's society, economy and environment.

I feel like I'm reading a chilling exposé of the plight of low paid workers in the US every day.

arsedocmd

Not a peep about the jesse jackson endorsement anywhere on tv. Just non stop scepticism of the bernie campaign all day at best and straight up dismissive insults at worst.

Gazza M

It'll get nasty after the next round of primaries. I hope bernie performs ahead of what the polls are saying, just to make them squirm a bit more

Burnwinter

You'd think the middle of a stock market correction, an engineered oil price crash and a public health crisis wouldn't be a bad wicket for an orthodox social democrat. Timing off by about a month, unfortunately.

flobaba

Someone has to make a voting app and get it tested way before the general elections.

Suspect this corona virus is going to be very influential when it comes to turnout.

Klaus

Could have just had people mail in their paper ballots if citizens had been automatically registered to vote.

MistaT

That's far too democratic for the US of good ol' A.

Burnwinter

Coombs wrote:
Get in the game, Burnsy. Run for office.

"Join the Labor party" is the last thing I'll do, it's a shit show and I say that with earnest respect for labourist parties in history. I would simply make myself miserable and help the cause of awful people.

Gazza M

Michigan going for biden pretty much slams the door on sanders. Its sad but most of his historically flaky target audience once again just didn't show up to the booth. Plus, he's not up against a widely disliked figure like hillary so he's also lost a chunk of the 'not-hillary' vote

Looking at the turn-out figures, biden atually looks decent in the key swing states so far. Not an inspiring candidate by any stretch and the country basically spins its wheels under him, but the medias fear-mongering over who can beat trump is probably be enough to prop him up in the general

arsedocmd

Bye bye Bernie. Fought a good fight.

Klaus

Couple months late, this, but it goes back to what we've been saying in the thread and what I think most people have known all along.

Genuinely begs belief what a complete character assassination this primary has been.

arsedocmd

If there is a debate, the one first question bernie should ask biden- list the states you just won this last two weeks joe and i'll drop out.

Mirth

People really hated Clinton in 2016

Gazza M

Klaus wrote:

Couple months late, this, but it goes back to what we've been saying in the thread and what I think most people have known all along.

Genuinely begs belief what a complete character assassination this primary has been.

The media over there has been nothing short of a disgrace throughout the primary. I've never seen the kind of naked hatred for a democratic candidate that i saw after sanders swept nevada. There was a sense that many of these people were starting at the abyss of irrelevance, and it felt satisfying seeing the masks slip even for a short time

Qwiss

Corporate media are always going to oppose any sort of left wing candidate. We seen in the US with Sanders, we seen it England with Corbyn, its been in overdrive here in Ireland since SF did well in the elections. Its pretty obvious the establishment media and especially the media owned by rich people is always going to come out against the left.

Claudius

I like Ro Khanna. He’s a California congressman and surrogate for Sanders. Great command of the issues, and also one of the few people I’ve heard who is thinking about how to tackle the tech giants.
If I was Biden, I would tap him up for a cabinet role.

Burnwinter

The "National Democratic Training Committee" (full disclosure: I have no real idea what they do) has been emailing a national list of party members push-polling them on whether Clinton should run in 2020.

Klaus

Progressive 😆

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