mdgoonah41 wrote:
arsedoc md wrote:

Bloomberg is second in national polls now? I don't understand how ads work on people. So strange.

but, i think getting him on a debate stage would be bad for him, because hes an empty suit with no real proposals. 

cos this was such a disaster for all the other 'moderates' 

yea but there is a lot more to attack on bloomberg, his record is terrible

arsedoc md wrote:

Bloomberg is second in national polls now? I don't understand how ads work on people. So strange.

It's part ads, and part that he's a household name based on past experience (NY) and his company. 

Easy for ads to work when all you need to do is remind people that Bloomberg is running. 

As George Carlin said, [font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]Think of how stupid the [/font][font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]average person[/font][font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif] is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.'[/font]

Carlin clearly doesn't know the difference between average and median. Unless that's also part of the joke.

there is NO WAY this fucking clown can be the nominee. no way. fuck, id canvas for bernie if it came to it

hopefully there's merciless pile-on bloomberg at the nevada debate. liz in particular should be champing at this kind of opportunity. it should be a lay-up for her to get a few highlights

Gazza M wrote:

hopefully there's merciless pile-on bloomberg at the nevada debate. liz in particular should be champing at this kind of opportunity. it should be a lay-up for her to get a few highlights

yeah shes been calling him out by name the last few days and attacking him, which is really the first time shes done that in a while with any candidate directly. i sort of get the impression everyone hates bloomberg at this point, from both sides.

he should have just run as a republican in the primary against trump, because hes actually a republican anyway. he could have bloodied him up and distracted him and done real damage. instead, hes just flushing a billion dollars of his own money down the tubes on this vanity project. all because he doesnt want to pay a wealth tax, which would actually do a lot of good for the country as a whole

They also need his money. Maybe not sanders Warren but

he said he'd donate write a blank cheque for whoever the frontrunner was. bernie won't take his money, and he's obviously not confident in the rest of the field, so he's put himself forward. i want to see him embarassed and bombed out unceremoniously

Lol. So you guys want android Pete to win?

mdgoonah41 wrote:

there is NO WAY this fucking clown can be the nominee. no way. fuck, id canvas for bernie if it came to it

Really, even Bernie?

They might as well invite Zuckerberg at this rate. After all, he created Facebook to empower the powerless everywhere.

jones wrote:
mdgoonah41 wrote:

there is NO WAY this fucking clown can be the nominee. no way. fuck, id canvas for bernie if it came to it

Really, even Bernie?

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Yeah even the ā€œsocialistā€.

Was listening to Michael Moores podcast and he says Bloomberg hasn't a hope of winning Michigan because helped out the mayor who fucked over Flint. He wont get the black vote, probably wont get latinos out to vote, a lot of women wont want to vote for him. Who exactly is supposed to vote for him?

as ive said numerous times, i like 95% of bernie's policies, but i dislike him personally and his online cult is incredibly toxic. hes still my clear second choice after warren

His online cult is a disaster but at least he has finally come out and asked them to behave a little. I like that heā€™s owning that. I think Warrenā€™s run is over, MD, so the only choice is Bernie. You might as well jump ship like a big greasy rat.

The toxic Bernie "Bro" myth has always seemed to me like it's full of contempt for lower class people. I have to say, my experience of Bernie supporters online is that they are made up of a wide range of ethnicities and backgrounds and have a much better gender balance than other voters. The common denominator is that they rarely belong to the upper class, few of them are old white retirees, and they all cry out for real systematic change.

When I look at them I see people who are angry about the way their lives and futures are being sabotaged by the political establishment basically. Maybe that's tough shit to swallow for some people who have spent the last few decades waving party flags as the DNC descended into light fascism and oligarchy, but I don't think that makes it toxic behaviour. I just think it's a necessary reminder that a lot of people, especially the ones under 40 who grew up with the Internet and online culture as an integral part of their lives, are legitimately angry. The idea that they're more toxic than the people who have actually helped ruin their lives doesn't sit well with me at all.

I saw Bloomberg run a twitter ad about rude Bernie supporters recently for instance, and I thought: that's just beautiful. 40 sexual harrassment lawsuits from 64 women, countless of black lives ruined, literally spending billions and a media empire to buy an election, but what really matters to the establishment is that "Bernie voters" aren't civil when they tell him to go and eat shit.

Watching from the outside, it seems to me that American elections have been all about identity politics this century, but real, life-altering change comes from policy based in an unshakable belief of equality, not candidates that look like you.

There was a good article on Vanity Fair's website yesterday about how the corporate media treats the Sanders campaign and his supporters:

The headline is part of a provocative quote from Faiz Shakir about how even Fox News have been more fair to them than MSNBC (and I guess by extension the Democratic party), and you can't even say it's untrue.

Well put. What the fuck does toxic following even mean in this context? Not supporting Hillary after it was leaked how she fucked Bernie over?