Ah, makes sense.
Circus circa 2020
flobaba wrote:Where is Buttigieg getting all his money from? And what exactly are his qualifications? What is his appeal? I really don’t get it.
Major companies, Google, Microsoft, other big corporations
https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00044183
A centrist who can stand up to trump easily.
He is even tempered, extremely articulate, very, very smart, very young, an Afghan veteran (intelligence)
Has not developed policies/plans on major issues, I.e., climate. Is creating as he moves along which tells me he is in over his head. He has a wry sense of humor which is appealing.
Strikes me as being naive, a regional politician; hasn’t proved he grasps national issues.
Needs to be flexible to incorporate progressive policies.
Has run into problems dealing with black population, police in South Bend.
Maybe a possible candidate in 2024 or 2028.
I suspect there's a better than even chance of Trump getting back in. So the really pertinent question is will the Dems still control the House in 4 years if they can get a President in? Obama had struggles with a hostile house and senate - will it be any easier in 4 years? Just asking cause I don't know the ins and outs too much.
Asterix wrote:I suspect there's a better than even chance of Trump getting back in. So the really pertinent question is will the Dems still control the House in 4 years if they can get a President in? Obama had struggles with a hostile house and senate - will it be any easier in 4 years? Just asking cause I don't know the ins and outs too much.
dems have a very good chance of keeping the house for a while, because its done by popular vote. gerrymandered districts still do play a part, but if the census is done properly in 2020, i think dems stand to gain from that.
the senate is a different (and more important) worry at this point. 2020 is a great map for democrats
competitive seats dems are defending:
doug jones (alabama) - will be their toughest race. alabama is bright red and trump is popular there, but jones is also very moderate and according to morning consult his overall approval is +6.
gary peters (michigan) - not the easiest hold for dems, but id say its slightly better than 50/50.
tina smith (minnesota) - dems always fret about minnesota, but i think they'll hold this seat fairly easily
jeanne shaheen (new hampshire) - safe seat
new mexico open seat - solidly blue state, but with the incumbent retiring, always a small risk
republicans have a much tougher slate
mcsally (arizona) - arizona is purple now, mcsally isnt super popular, and the guy she is facing is a former NASA astronaut who is very popular in the state. i think this one flips
gardner (colorado) - colorado is pretty much a blue state, gardner is a trump toady and i cant see him holding his seat. his net approval is -3 right now.
loeffler (georgia) - georgia is turning purple and if dems continue to build support in the suburbs, decent chance to flip this seat
perdue (georgia) - i dont think dems can flip both seats, especially since hes the incumbent
ernst (iowa) - shes another trump toady. iowa has gotten redder, but shes 5 points underwater right now and has a strong dem challenger
roberts (kansas) - incumbent is retiring, and kansas put in a bunch of democrats in state elections in 2018. its a wildcard
collins (maine) - shes the most unpopular senator in the country right now, and maine is a blueish state. i think shes going down
tillis (NC) - north carolina is a reddish/purple state, i think they'll probably keep this one, but it will be close
cornyn (texas) - if beto/castro had run, i think this would be in play, but there isnt a strong challenger to cornyn right now
its 53-47 now. if dems win the white house, they only need 50-50 to control the senate since the VP breaks ties.
jones is a legit possible loss for dems. but i think arizona, colorado, georgia, and maine are all very much in play, and i think at least 2 of them are going dem. i think the likely result is dems lose alabama and win arizona, colorado and maine. that would leave them 1 short, so they'll need a steal in iowa or georgia or kansas.
Regarding Arizona....
Several years ago USRep Gabby Giffords was shot in the head, outside a mall, seriously injured, 5 dead.
Resigned from Congress to recover.
Major national gun control advocate.
Campaigns for her husband, Mark Kelly, the astronaut, mentioned in MDs post.
@[deleted]. Just spoke to a friend who said she made a small donation to McGrath in Kentucky. Any chance?
And what about SCarolina. Does the Dem have a chance against LIndsey?
Asterix wrote:I suspect there's a better than even chance of Trump getting back in. So the really pertinent question is will the Dems still control the House in 4 years if they can get a President in? Obama had struggles with a hostile house and senate - will it be any easier in 4 years? Just asking cause I don't know the ins and outs too much.
Who knows...
Just send out your best vibes to the US that he is defeated.
Any time I hear a dem say he will win, I say if you don’t want him in, do something about it and stop with the negative talk.
The Dems have an excellent chance to hold the House. The Senate is a different story. See MDs post.
Remember that when first elected Obama had both House and Senate, and then he and Dems got whacked in the midterms.
mags wrote:Regarding Arizona....
Several years ago USRep Gabby Giffords was shot in the head, outside a mall, seriously injured, 5 dead.
Resigned from Congress to recover.
Major national gun control advocate.
Campaigns for her husband, Mark Kelly, the astronaut, mentioned in MDs post.@[deleted]. Just spoke to a friend who said she made a small donation to McGrath in Kentucky. Any chance?
And what about SCarolina. Does the Dem have a chance against LIndsey?
ive donated to mcgrath's campaign, and mcconnell is wildly unpopular, but i just cant see him losing his seat. i mean, if that happened, id take a week off of work and celebrate like i havent celebrated in years.
i dont think graham's seat is at risk, unfortunately. unless there is insane dem turnout, i dont think places like south carolina or tennessee are in play. dems ran a very popular former governor in tennessee in 2018 to try and win corker's open seat and it wasnt really close. i dont think they have anyone who can challenge there. harrison, graham's opponent in SC, seems solid, but its a real uphill battle.
the best case scenario, imo, is 50-50 after 2020 with dems controlling the white house, then bucking the trend of the incumbent party losing seats in the mid term, because dems have a bunch of great opportunities in 2022:
florida (rubio) - going to be a lot of money in this race
iowa (grassley) - he might retire, iowa is a wildcard
kentucky (rand) - hes a shithead and not very popular in KY
north carolina (burr) - a reach, but possible depending how 2020 goes
pennsylvania (toomey) - i will do everything possible to defeat him. we better run a good candidate this time
wisconsin (johnson) - hes knee deep in the ukraine stuff, wisconsin is still a blueish state, i think this one is def in play
dems will only need to defend a few non-safe seats: nevada (looks pretty safe though), possibly illinois, colorado (pretty safe)
IDP's incompetence here is amazing. taniel on twitter keeps finding errors in the results posted. there will never be a winner declared, lol
perez says they'll recanvass, but a few hours later IDP post 100% of precincts with the error laden data. Just silly
Klaus wrote:He kinda deserves it by the sound of it. In addition to the link mags posted, wasn't Perez behind the recent campaign finance rule change too that essentially let Bloomberg buy his way into the debates? He probably looked at Trump and decided he wanted an oligarch of his own to take office.
Did you see Bloomberg donated 3 6 figure donations to the DNC before those changes were made?
Must be tough for folks like Booker and Harris who flamed out in the preliminaries, only to see Bloomberg land in the main draw.
It’s a joke. It’s why I just watch in silence when folks are getting all het up about one party or the other. They’re basically two faces of the same coin. Money totally owns the politics here.
Harris is a nasty piece of work. Not sure what the female equivalent to an Uncle Tom is but few match that stereotype as hard as she does.
Meanwhile..
flobaba wrote:Where is Buttigieg getting all his money from?
Qwiss! wrote:Klaus wrote:He kinda deserves it by the sound of it. In addition to the link mags posted, wasn't Perez behind the recent campaign finance rule change too that essentially let Bloomberg buy his way into the debates? He probably looked at Trump and decided he wanted an oligarch of his own to take office.
Did you see Bloomberg donated 3 6 figure donations to the DNC before those changes were made?
No, but it doesn't surprise me the least. There is no one at the top of the Democratic party that wants anything but yet another end-stage capitalist who'll make sure power and resources isn't redistributed to the masses. And the corporate media is doing everything they can to help:
So right on ,Klaus.
The capitalists-centrists are in control behind the scenes.
The DNC has deep roots in the HRC-Obama camp.
If anyone has a link to Pete responding to questions about who finances his campaign, would love to see it. Want to watch him worm his way out of that, or rather put the spin on it.
I have stopped watching most tv media, New Hampshire reports, etc. So hysterical and full of bias. No wonder Bernie’s supporters play hardball.
The DNC is as shameless as trump.
And don’t get me started on Chuck Todd, nbc and msnbc,
chuck todd is a human disaster
buttigeg has been cringe tonight. cant stand him
mags wrote:The DNC has deep roots in the HRC-Obama camp.
There are so many in that camp that are more concerned about protecting political legacies too than they are about doing right by the American people, and the world at large.
mags wrote:And don’t get me started on Chuck Todd, nbc and msnbc,
They make me mad too. Seeing Todd talking about ”not creating unnecessary class warfare” makes you wonder if he has spent a single day among people that aren't comfortably upper class/upper middle class. What does he think this election is about? Or any recent election, really, because most countries are in the same boat. The current system creates a situation where black holes like Bloomberg and Jeff Bezos appear and swallow all the wealth while working class and disenfranchised people have to toil away at multiple jobs just to avoid being thrown out on the streets. They're criminalised for being poor, for being sick, for struggling with addiction, for the colour of their skin when they're black and for the heritage in their blood when they don't want the government to build pipelines through the small patches of land it hasn't yet found a way to steal from native tribes. Someone declared war on all these people a long time ago.
Inequality has never been a bigger issue in our lifetimes than it is now. We have a situation right now globally where less than a hundred multinational companies are responsible for more than 90 percent of all greenhouse emissions, for literally killing the planet, and they all spend massive money to influence governments around the world to make sure they can keep doing it. And the best the neocons who got us all onto this sinking ship are capable of coming up with is stuff like Macron's carbon taxes in France that massively inconvenienced an already disadvantaged working class, and suspending pensions for people who have worked hard their whole lives. Or like billionaire-owned MSNBC: pretend that Bloomberg and Bill Gates, the epitomes of a fundamentally broken system, are actually great because all these rich people ”grow the economy” and ”give us something to aspire to”. They build the societies we have, and then they penalise people for living in them while they themselves suck up all the wealth.
”Don't create unnecessary class warfare”, I swear. You want to put all of these people in a sack and beat it with sticks until it stops moving.