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Unai Emery - Initial thoughts

Ray

Sven needs to get a good winger in first and foremost, I’m surprised because at Dortmund he found a whole bunch of good ones.

Klaus

He got us his old Dortmund winger to be fair. It didn't work out that well.

Ray

He got Mkhi when he was 24, a lot different than the guy we signed in Jan. A lot of his other signings were young too.

Klaus

Yeah, definitely. It seemed like Sven was pushing hard for us to sign him from United though.

goon

I don’t know about Kola. There’s things I saw against Wolves that were woefully bad that can’t really be blamed on rustyness, he just looked like he didn’t have a clue. He made up for it with his enthusiasm and attacking play when he first joined, but then the back three probably masked just how bad he is defensively.

On a side note, watching us recently made me appreciate how good Kos was at covering for his full backs. He was basically doing two jobs at once at his best.

goon

Klaus wrote:
Yeah, definitely. It seemed like Sven was pushing hard for us to sign him from United though.

I thought it was Riola who proposed and pushed for it and we essentially went along with it as it suited us given the circumstances? I’ve not seen anything suggest it was Sven except journos adding 2 and 2 together, though I’d imagine they’d at least be half right.

Klaus

How would Raiola have any influence over that transfer though? United were willing to offer us money and Sanchez wanted to go. We wanted Mkhi. To be fair Wenger had tried to sign him both when he left Shakhtar and when he left Dortmund and was probably a fan too. Our three first signings after Sven came on board were old Dortmund players though.

goon

I don’t remember the details fully, but as I recall he was the one to initially propose the swap, rather than us approaching United with the idea or United offering him to us. Of course, we’d have had to have been open to it too as would United, but he orchestrated the thing.

Anzac

arsedoc md wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Can one of you guys explain what the overall style of play is that we are going for on offense? Is there a clear plan that the players are adhering to?

Say Anzac three times and he may be invoked.

😆 ;D

goon

Some thoughts from the man himself:

Good read, doesn’t sound like a man with blinkers on.

I see the ‘Leno much be rubbish in training’ theory’s were trash.

arsedocmd

Hypotheses, not theories. We were speculating.

flobaba

Not sure if it speaks to how good a job he has done managing this transition period or how lucky we were that Cech got injured and basically made the decision for him. :-/.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

I don't understand what he says to the Aubameyang Lacazette question.

goon

I read it as him still trying to figure it out, saying sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It doesn't sound like he really knows, which is understandable to be fair as I'm not sure there is an ideal solution.

flobaba wrote:
Not sure if it speaks to how good a job he has done managing this transition period or how lucky we were that Cech got injured and basically made the decision for him. :-/.

It might have taken a bit longer but I think Leno would have gotten in after a couple more Europa/Cup games. Just as Torreira eventually took Guendouzi's place.

Klaus

I'm not so sure. He didn't have any problem dropping Ramsey who's been twice the player Cech's ever been for us. Gut feeling is that we'd still be watching Cech if it weren't for the timely injury.

goon

I'm not sure I follow. Surely Ramsey being dropped is a further indicator that Cech would have been dropped too?

Klaus

No, because Ramsey got dropped and Cech didn't.

goon

He got dropped after Cech's injury and, aside from this, his contract obviously played a key part in the decision.

Another factor to consider is, unlike an outfield player, there is no real turning back once you drop a keeper. Guys like Aaron and Guendouzi can win their places back. Unless Leno turned out to be a disaster, then dropping Cech would essentially be calling time on his career as Arsenal no.1.

For what it's worth I'm not quite sure I agree with the philosophy, but if it breeds a better mentality within the squad then I see no harm as long as it's just a chance and not a free ticket to the first XI.

Klaus

goon wrote:
He got dropped after Cech's injury and, aside from this, his contract obviously played a key part in the decision.

Ramsey lost his position pretty much right away. I think he has started two games in central midfield this season. The rest of the time he's either been on the bench or been moved around in an attacking midfielder capacity where he's never been much good. I don't think the contract has played any part in that decision at all.

goon wrote:
Another factor to consider is, unlike an outfield player, there is no real turning back once you drop a keeper. Guys like Aaron and Guendouzi can win their places back. Unless Leno turned out to be a disaster, then dropping Cech would essentially be calling time on his career as Arsenal no.1.

Yes, I agree. I think the reason for sticking with Cech was obvious too. I just don't think we would have seen any change if it weren't for the injury.

goon

I think Aaron started the large majority of the first 8 or 9 games, albeit often out of place but then that goes for most of our forwards.

Anyway, who knows. I do think Cech would have kept his place a while longer, but I reckon he was one costly screw up with the ball away from being dropped.

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