jones wrote:

The Rakitic goal for those who haven't seen it

It would've been an outrageous goal already had Coutinho smashed it in but him doing a blind Capoeira back pass and then Rakitic putting his foot through the ball like that while it's like a yard off the ground hitting the inside of the post.. "nice hit but that's all" 😆

that's a hell of a hit. very difficult technique

Yeah Ter Stegen reflexes and shot stopping is top notch but overall I wouldn't say he is top 5 keeper in the world yet.

Messi is just incredible. Honestly as a footballer even Ronaldo dont come close at all. Messi vision and passing is the best as well, better than any DLPs ever

Even after losing physicality, in my eyes, he has still been the best player for the last 5 years even though FIFA's judging coaches have come up with cronaldo for the last 2 or 3. This year they've come up with 5 better players (?).
Their criteria doesn't make sense like justifying his exclusion by saying he didn't win the Champions League then voting a semi-final volley over an equivalent final volley not to mention the Salah "run of the mill" goal winning the last one.

Those awards are taking him for granted to be fair. They think people will find it boring if we give Messi for 15 years consecutive.

Puskas award is a popularity vote so can't completely pin that on the judging.

I think BT's Puskas award analogy is comparing Ronaldo and Bale's goal where Bale one is clearly better but not even nominated

They normally nominate a fewf goals scored by obscure teams, this year seemed very mainstream and also looked like they spent about 5 mins trying to remember 5 decent goals off the top of their heads.

I think Messi suffers when it comes to individual accolades the same way LeBron James does in the NBA. They are both clearly the best in the business, and have been for a decade or so.

I'm curious about how those who wanted Jardim at Arsenal now feel given that he's only won 1 game in 8 in Ligue 1 and currently bottom of their CL group. Obviously they've lost a hell of a lot of good players as well but I don't watch Ligue 1 to know where the responsibility lies.

Haven't seen any Ligue 1 this season, but I think your last sentence sums it up. These boom-bust-cycles are to be expected when the club sells 3 to 4 of your best players every season and only replace them with youngsters or modest signings. It happened to Klopp at Dortmund too. It's happening to Di Francesco at Roma this season too, although they seem to have found a winning streak lately.

He started poorly last year as well if I recall correctly, team needed some time to gel which isn't surprising looking at the number of ins and outs. Still finished 2nd in the end

Either way he's a terrific manager, his achievements at Braga, in Greece and that 95 point season with Monaco with a CL semi final weigh a lot more than a poor start or two.

19 days later

if Juve doesnt beat this team, ugh..

Dybalalalalala

United haven’t been bad but they look like they’re just waiting to lose.

I can’t make my mind up on Martial, looks so good on the ball but hasn’t had a touch in the first 22 mins.

The goal:

This should bring José down a notch again. For being such a defensive side Manchester United are really, really terrible at defending. Look at Smalling getting beaten to a low cross all the way out from the corner flag. Look at Matic just letting Dybala go. He has one job and can't be bothered to do it. Xhaka levels of lethargy.

For such an intelligent player, Scholes really is the least insightful pundit around. And considering his competition that's saying something

He makes up for it with his charisma and energy though.

United would be so much worse off today without De Gea. Sometimes I think he has singlehandedly kept them from slipping into the lower half of the table in recent years.

35% possession at home. 😆

Against Juve too, not like they're a side who pride themselves on possession

goon wrote:

He makes up for it with his charisma and energy though.

I find some pleasure in finding out the whole class of United 92 dickheads ended up as the same scum that I regarded them as as a 12 year old back when Wenger was still winning league titles against them.

Edit: Never mind. Stupid match update got it wrong.

Romelu Pookaku strikes again.

One of Juve's better performers tonight for sure. The United fans are livid.

Klaus wrote:

United would be so much worse off today without De Gea. Sometimes I think he has singlehandedly kept them from slipping into the lower half of the table in recent years.

I think he’s been their player of the season for 2-3 seasons running now 😆

Shady wrote:

Romelu Pookaku strikes again.

Don't say that.

Clrnc wrote:
Shady wrote:

Romelu Pookaku strikes again.

Don't say that.

Pepe needs to add a tagging function to this place

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goon wrote:
Klaus wrote:

United would be so much worse off today without De Gea. Sometimes I think he has singlehandedly kept them from slipping into the lower half of the table in recent years.

I think he’s been their player of the season for 2-3 seasons running now 😆

he is clearly the best player on their team.  he has won them probably 8-12 points per season, which before last season, was surely mid-table. 

Found a list of their PotS winners over the last 5 years:

2013–14	David de Gea	 Spain	Goalkeeper	
2014–15	David de Gea	 Spain	Goalkeeper		
2015–16	David de Gea	 Spain	Goalkeeper		
2016–17	Ander Herrera	 Spain	Midfielder		
2017–18	David de Gea	 Spain	Goalkeeper	

That's pretty amazing 😆

Honestly I can't see anyone taking that crown off him this season either.

Wait, when was Ander Herrera any good?

Reading what some of their fans say he's apparently their new Roy Keane because he has an annoying face and can't tackle for shit.

What a poor joke of a club. A bloke with no outstanding qualities to speak of is their talisman, some fat fuck in leggings plays three mediocre games and gets a 180kpw contract, their 100m striker is Stormzy with a gym membership and their coach is Jose Mourinho. It's like when I was playing FIFA 02 as a teenager and would turn down every slider of a team I disliked.

PSV lead Spurs via Chucky Lozano...nice to see he's continued on well from last season/World cup

Lucas Moura again...has been great since he moved to Sp*rs...wish we had taken a punt on him at 25M.

Toby "best centre back in the league" Alderweireld at it again

BWoolley wrote:

Lucas Moura again...has been great since he moved to Sp*rs...wish we had taken a punt on him at 25M.

I'd rather not have someone at the club who openly supports a fascist

Sad to see how Monaco threw away an opportunity to be 2-0 up. Had a beautiful through ball, striker rounded the keeper and then the angle was too narrow for Sylla to finish for his second. Two teenagers in that move. Unfortunately, not even two minutes later the score was 1-1. The road will be long for Henry. Up to that point though, Monaco was really on top.

BWoolley wrote:

Lucas Moura again...has been great since he moved to Sp*rs...wish we had taken a punt on him at 25M.

Really? Aside from a couple of half decent games he’s barely registered for me.

Lloris red card
PSV equalizes

goon wrote:
BWoolley wrote:

Lucas Moura again...has been great since he moved to Sp*rs...wish we had taken a punt on him at 25M.

Really? Aside from a couple of half decent games he’s barely registered for me.

4 goals 22 games. Yeah that’s a no from me. Think i’d rather wait for Nelson then throw money at someone we would probably have to replace in 2 years.