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SF: Croatia vs England, Wednesday 11 July, 18h00 GMT

Ricky1985

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert wrote:
This tournament highlighted how few attributes Kane has. Useless, sluggish player if he's not surrounded by athletes and geniuses close-by.

Did you just use the plural "geniuses" when describing a Tottenham team? 😆

Qwiss

Klaus wrote:
Mirth wrote:
Basically, fuck Kane. A half fit Vardy would have been much better at scrapping something out

Yeah, I think the one mistake Southgate made in this tournament was to not use Vardy more too. You can understand why he didn't; everything leading up to the World Cup had been about Kane's prolificy as a striker and he did get the numbers early, be it that most of them were penalties or easy scraps against titans like Panama.

Vardy had the better form over the past half year or so though, he was in good shape going into the tournament, and I think his attributes would have been extremely useful against a team like Croatia. If football was less politics he would have started a couple games in the WC.

I don't understand why he kept bringing Rashford on instead of Vardy. Vardy when Rashford came on yesterday and Welbeck then in extra time and England might have made it. Rashford did fuck all when he came on.

lorddulaarsenal

Pepe LeFrits wrote:
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
No but I can expect them to not needlessly bring in politics with remarks which clearly suggest a disdain for our country

He should have just called England a shit country instead.

Would have been better received.

Still no acknowledgement from anyone that it was a stupid thing to post. Good grief.

lorddulaarsenal

Kane didn’t look fully fit to me. Still probs win the golden boot mind

FEBravo

On an unrelated issue, why does England (and Scotland, Wales, N.I.) have their own teams, and it's the UK at the Olympics?

I'm just thinking, this team with Ramsey and Bale would do pretty well I'd think.

Ricky1985

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Kane didn’t look fully fit to me. Still probs win the golden boot mind

Fitness isn't the reason he runs like he's towing a caravan I'm afraid.

jones

Qwiss! wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Yeah, I think the one mistake Southgate made in this tournament was to not use Vardy more too. You can understand why he didn't; everything leading up to the World Cup had been about Kane's prolificy as a striker and he did get the numbers early, be it that most of them were penalties or easy scraps against titans like Panama.

Vardy had the better form over the past half year or so though, he was in good shape going into the tournament, and I think his attributes would have been extremely useful against a team like Croatia. If football was less politics he would have started a couple games in the WC.

I don't understand why he kept bringing Rashford on instead of Vardy. Vardy when Rashford came on yesterday and Welbeck then in extra time and England might have made it. Rashford did fuck all when he came on.

Because Rashford plays for United and Southgate has no balls

Ricky1985

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44811549

Even Fifa got fed up of the it's coming home bollocks!

In all seriousness, I wonder what they were signing?

Pepe LeFrits

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Pepe LeFrits wrote:
He should have just called England a shit country instead.

Would have been better received.

Still no acknowledgement from anyone that it was a stupid thing to post. Good grief.

It was a stupid thing to post.

Your conduct in this thread has been much worse however and I haven't seen any contrition coming from you.

Ricky1985

Old Dules is just defending his country because they done went and got him excited in the football again and he's a bit sensitive today. No harm done.

Put some old songs on and remember how silly all this stuff is, old friend. I've just listened to a plethora of England songs from years gone by. Made me laugh my head off. And and Dec I'm on the ball, Sven Sven Sven, Come on England to the tune of Come on Eileen! And of course F̶o̶o̶t̶b̶a̶l̶l̶'̶s̶ Harry's coming home. Oh I do love that song. Cried my little eyes out at Euro 96. The useless bastards. 😆

It's nice not being invested any more, personally. I do genuinely see football as a load of silliness really these days, I'd like to think it's because I'm older and wiser, but who knows? Now if only I could stop being so crazy about Arsenal... 🙂

Clrnc

invisibleman18 wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
Spursy mentality really. "We challenged"

They got to the semi final. Did they not "challenge?" Should he have said they failed, came last and shouldn't have bothered qualifying to begin with?

Truly big footballing nations would be terribly disappointed to not be in the final at the very least, let alone with the run-in they got. I know England has underperformed for decades, but they are still a very big footballing nation that should have expectations to win trophies and not just get past group stages to be success IMO. Maybe its because it's been a long long time since England went into a semi, but many journalist and players trying to spin this as a good success and proud of their performances despite the fact that the squad has real quality but the players bottled it against a tired Croatia team is weird. England played so well in the first 30 minutes, it should have been easy pickings for them in the 2nd half with their pace up front on the counter but they chose to sit back and got punished for it.

I think with better big game mentality this squad would be good enough to push France to the very end in the final.

lorddulaarsenal

Football has nothing to do with it Tricky. Honest to god I don’t really get affected by it. Sadly same goes for Arsenal as ultimately it’s just a game. What I don’t like is folk using it as an opportunity to have a pop at countries, england or any other for that matter.

Yeah and Pepe I couldn’t give a monkeys if I called gurgen a pr*ck. I’d do that in real life given the context

lorddulaarsenal

Clrnc I’d say the majority of folk here are truly disappointed at not being in the final but at the same time we are proud that the team gave their all and entertained us over the last month.

Pepe LeFrits

Ricky1985 wrote:
Old Dules is just defending his country because they done went and got him excited in the football again and he's a bit sensitive today. No harm done.

I'm sure there isn't any harm done, Gurgen's a big boy. And while I appreciate your attempts (and of others) to defuse the tension, he isn't just defending his country; he's being an asshole. You can't see the full post history as some are deleted but Dula's response to Gurgen's post was to make four separate posts insulting him personally. Then he goes on and on looking for others to condemn Gurgen for disrespecting his country... such sanctimony might come across as genuine if he wasn't habitually disrespectful of many other countries.

lorddulaarsenal

Pffff

lorddulaarsenal

Fact is what he posted was disrespectful and yet it’s been brushed over. Keep doing that and all that kind of crap becomes accepted

invisibleman18

And what he posted wasn't even correct given Brexit was about Europe. Had a couple of people make the same joke at me at work yesterday too.

lorddulaarsenal

Yeah it was just plain out right ignorant.

goon

There's been some genuinely outrageous stuff posted on this place over the last 8 years, you've chosen a fairly trivial one to lash out over Dules 😆

lorddulaarsenal

To be fair I barely read others post unless it’s about transfers 😆

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