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  • Lucas Torreira (David Ornstein+Guardian update on page 5)

Alfredo Pedulla [usually reliable]: “As in the past few days, we reconfirm that Napoli is no longer in the race for #Torreira. Sampdoria want €5-6m above the €25m release clause & player wants PL move. It is not by chance #AFC materialised.”

I hope we can get it done, it's starting to be reported everywhere now. All we need is Porny to say something, and to get it done before the world cup.

How do we get it done before the World Cup?
We can agree a fee, but the medical is at least 3 weeks away. Which puts inter club agreements at risk.

We can quite easily conduct the medical in Russia. Am pretty sure similar arrangements have been made in the past under similar circumstances.

Looks like a more aggressive, less skilled Cazorla.

I didn't say that. I asked if there is a DM who is more skilled than Cazorla was.

Tambourine Man wrote:

We can quite easily conduct the medical in Russia. Am pretty sure similar arrangements have been made in the past under similar circumstances.

So if you're Tabarez, you're going to disturb your detailed planning for the World Cup in the week before the opening game by allowing one of your key players to leave camp to go do a physical that is out of sync with your training schedule? Okay. 

i still dont get why players allow for agents to set transfer fees for themselves. I thought it was more common for an agent to simply get an agreed upon/contracted percentage?

Sky reporting it now.

Me too - feels likes it makes too much sense to actually happen. The last time we made such a sensible transfer was Alexis, 4 yrs ago. Really hope we get this one completed though - would be a great addition to our MF.

Didn't Di Marzio confirm this already? A lot more reliable than Sky in my book.

He's confirmed the same thing as everyone else, which is that we are in negotiations and the agent fee is a stumbling block. Feels a little like his agent is also playing for time, hoping that he has a stellar WC and can attract more suitors. One way or the other, Arsenal have jaded us enough in recent years to not believe in good things.

That comes with its own risks though. What if he sustains a bad injury at the WC? Suddenly all his suitors would back out.

Agreed - but I can't find any other explanation for their actions. I think his agent also said last week that he would wait for a week (till 15 June) to decide (of course, that's after the WC starts).

Di Marzio on Sky Sport 1: “#Torreira approaches #AFC, we will not continue to see him in Italy. The London club will pay around 30 million, little more than the release clause.” https://t.co/hJW7cbKsCx https://t.co/fwWZQXMbFh

Sounds like a bit more than just confirming negotiations no?

Just get it done so Xhaka has to earn his place next year.

Torreira and AMN should be plenty of pressure/motivation.

Di Marzio talks a good amount of rubbish too, tbf. Its not like he's Ornstein.

marv3llous wrote:

Di Marzio talks a good amount of rubbish too, tbf. Its not like he's Ornstein.

Ornstein is an outlier, he doesn't say anything that isn't intended to be put out in public by the club itself. In terms of transfer leaks/news there are few as reliable as Di Marzio especially when it comes to Serie A

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

I think Xhaka will be marginalised

Hopefully.

If he’s not we are doing something wrong.

jones wrote:
marv3llous wrote:

Di Marzio talks a good amount of rubbish too, tbf. Its not like he's Ornstein.

Ornstein is an outlier, he doesn't say anything that isn't intended to be put out in public by the club itself. In terms of transfer leaks/news there are few as reliable as Di Marzio especially when it comes to Serie A

Absolutely correct on them both. Just saying, that Di Marzio is reporting loads of stuff that is not true or is simply falsely fed to him. He is the most reliable of Serie A sources though.

Its simply that Arsenal transfers, for the very large part, do not happen like this. Only ones i can think of, from the top of my head, were Lacazette and Mustafi. Those two had reports of us trying to get the deal done for weeks, before it actually happened. But the again, those two were the kind of deals where the selling clubs are notoriously big on haggling over the price and taking things out to the media. But generally, when something is actually happening, it comes out of nowhere. The name of our of actual target is quite often someone who has never been mentioned in relation to us. I hope, that Torreira is simply getting mentioned due to agent or the club trying to get the bidding war going ... and that we will simply blow others away and get this done. Just not convinced it actually is so.

Guardian Italian correspondent saying it's closer

@bbcsport_david

As widely reported Arsenal in talks to sign Sampdoria midfielder Lucas Torreira. No agreement but central midfield a priority & 22yo Uruguay int’l seen as ideal fit technically + financially. #AFC also want a GK after defensive signings of Lichtsteiner & Sokratis (announced July)

296 - Lucas Torreira made the most recoveries (296) among the outfield players in Serie A in the 2017-18 campaign. Worker.

Dimarzio correspondent on Torreira in comparisons to Vida/Veratti

"important to note as far as style eh- I think Torreira can reach their level of ability fairly soon though"

He’s willy shakingly good. He’s got a great shot on him. Got that knuckleball in his locker

Happy with this signing, and happy that the club has finally cut the bs prioritised a midfielder that can tackle

the replies to any arsenal related ornstein tweet are really fucking majestic.

mdgoonah41 wrote:

the replies to any arsenal related ornstein tweet are really fucking majestic.

There's not a single normal response in there ffs

😆

The work rate and aggression on this guy is going to make others take note.

This feels like a player we couldn't have signed under Wenger. Bring on the Emery era.

Wenger really seemed to have an issue with Serie A.