Qwiss! wrote:

Sure thats what media is all about, making money. Its the same reason they have moron ex-players like Neville, Carragher, etc as pundits instead of people with decent insights into the game.

Exactly.
I was about to post the below which backs up your point.

Unlike many i avoid but don't begrudge the man earning his crust as established news organisations like talkshite have been doing far worse to us for over 20 years. In any case i think his main audience are manu fans which explains why he has a bigger following than their own fan tv channels.

Yeah thats how I feel. I don't watch it, don't really like it but I say fair to play to your man Robbie. He got a camera and went out and made something, filled a gap in the market. Beats working in a call centre.

going back to ozil, i think the club needs to take a very firm, hard line stance on ozil this summer.

either he agrees to go if they can find a decent club for him, or hes going to spend the last 2 years of his contract in the reserves and he'll never see first team football again at arsenal. that will tell you everything you need to know about him and where he is right now in his career. he has no more german NT to play for. is he comfortable with his career being over? if he is, then he wouldn't be any help to our team anyway.

if inter milan comes in and says they want him but they'll only offer £10m for him because of what they need to pay him, we need to take it. hes a sunk cost right now, anything we can do to get his wages off the book should be done, and done as soon as possible

Gunner89 wrote:

Ricky1985 wrote:

Robbie, the guy that runs Arsenal Fan TV, says he reckons it was about 5 to 1 in terms of Arsenal fans outnumbering Chelsea fans in the stadium. Say what you want about his channel but he's a honest and fair guy and, whilst he might not have the ratio exactly correct, I very much doubt he talks shit.

Good o'l Robbie has been at the forefront of milking fans for a while now. He got his big hit in the summer of 2013 when a video went viral of an old gent after the villa loss and the summer of Higuain and Suarez.

I've been in the ad-tech industry for years and AFTV was a client of ours along with a number of substantially more high traffic websites.

Some of the fans on it are apparently real long term ones from the 80's but most of his content is driven to get high views and consequently high $$$.

Am I supposed to be upset or appalled that he makes money? Sorry, you're talking to the wrong guy in that case.

He follows Arsenal everywhere and has done for decades. And so have most of the fans that feature more prominently.

They make high quality videos that capture the mood of the fans on matchdays: Which is really valuable to international fans and any one else that can't go to games but wants a taste of of the experience. They also do a good job of discussing topics relevant to Arsenal fans outside of match days, they've got their finger on the pulse, as you'd expect from proper Arsenal fans.

I only watch sporadically, but I do find it cathartic to tune in after a bad defeat and see the rage I'm feeling expressed by other Gooners. Occasionally the joy too.

I say this gentleman, Robbie, has done very well for himself; through his own ingenuity and hard work, and at nobody else's the expense. Good on him.

Hunter wrote:

I used to defend Ozil like a few on here are, but for the last 18 months or so he’s been a disgrace I’m afraid. Wenger comments about a player losing hunger with International retirement are bang on. He’s got his massive contract, he’s got no motivation to perform well, Arsenal aren’t going to win the PL in his time here and he’s already won the cups.

Sadly he’s almost impossible to get rid of, Arsenal won’t loan him whilst they still have to pay some of his wage, and he won’t let us anyway. He’s here until 2021 when he’ll then get another massive contract somewhere else.

Just quoting this as I’d otherwise just be repeating myself. All I’ll add is that for him to not even up it for a European final says a lot about his commitment to this club.

An utter embarrassment of a man.

Oh yeah, if he has his agent come out and try and excuse his season I hope he gets booed all season when he steps foot on the pitch.

Oh a statement from his agent castigating the haters and taking sly digs at emery is almost guaranteed

Hunter wrote:

Hunter wrote:

I used to defend Ozil like a few on here are, but for the last 18 months or so he’s been a disgrace I’m afraid.  Wenger comments about a player losing hunger with International retirement are bang on.  He’s got his massive contract, he’s got no motivation to perform well, Arsenal aren’t going to win the PL in his time here and he’s already won the cups.  

Sadly he’s almost impossible to get rid of, Arsenal won’t loan him whilst they still have to pay some of his wage, and he won’t let us anyway.  He’s here until 2021 when he’ll then get another massive contract somewhere else.

Just quoting this as I’d otherwise just be repeating myself.  All I’ll add is that for him to not even up it for a European final says a lot about his commitment to this club.

An utter embarrassment of a man.

He is on about 125k per week higher than Hazard. Just let that sink in. Fuck whoever who gave that contract.

Hunter wrote:

Oh yeah, if he has his agent come out and try and excuse his season I hope he gets booed all season when he steps foot on the pitch.

Even otherwise, I'd be happy with that outcome. Anything to possibly shame him into leaving.

Clrnc wrote:

Hunter wrote:

Just quoting this as I’d otherwise just be repeating myself.  All I’ll add is that for him to not even up it for a European final says a lot about his commitment to this club.

An utter embarrassment of a man.

He is on about 125k per week higher than Hazard. Just let that sink in. Fuck whoever who gave that contract.

That would be one Ivan Gazidis mate. The guy who has set us back 10 years with a series of terrible decisions.

Wenger needed to go due to his bad coaching, but I think it’s safe to say those reports of Gazidis taking over transfers etc were bang on. Remember when we signed Xhaka and Wenger wouldn’t start him at first, same for Kolasinac. On paper those two aren’t his type, both technically miles off.

Gazidis has wasted so much fucking money, the recent transfers, he gave the highest contract in our history to Ozil, a decision even Wenger was against. Constantly fucked up player contracts and cost us millions there, then he fucks off when he gets a bigger wage packet, or more likely realises with no Wenger he’d be hounded out anyway.

I hate that bald bastard more than any player, coach or owner at the club, yes even more than Kroenke.

Brilliant opportunity for the new structure to make a statement - tell Ozil he either finds another club and takes a pay cut to market value wages, or he sees out his contract playing in the u23s & never sees 1st team football for us again, not even the CCup. Alternatively he can buy out his remaining 3 years and depart now as a free agent.

Anzac wrote:

Brilliant opportunity for the new structure to make a statement - tell Ozil he either finds another club and takes a pay cut to market value wages, or he sees out his contract playing in the u23s & never sees 1st team football for us again, not even the CCup.  Alternatively he can buy out his remaining 3 years and depart now as a free agent.

If you honestly think he will give up his guaranteed £31million if we banish him from the first team, i think you are in for a disappointment.
We cannot force him to take a pay cut as we have signed the contract.
The best we can do is pay him off upfront to leave but the amount will remain £31million unless he agrees.
Think about it.
What would you do if you were paid £350k a week and your boss says you continue to earn that but come in and do nothing for 2 years or pay £31million out of your own pocket to go and look for another job?

Absolutely. I think the fans need to give Raul and Vinai leeway here. Getting rid of Ozil will be the hardest project over the next 12 months. At best, we probably only buy him out next summer.

If we must terminate his contract, we need to do it. It's imperative we get rid of him asap not only because he's useless on the pitch, but his presence is just toxic now. I don't want any of the academy lads picking up any traits from Ozil when it comes to professionalism, work ethic, desire, attitude and mentality.

Yes...he's a disgrace and should be treated as much by the fans. Boos all around every time he steps on the field and / or touches the ball would be a good start if he does refuse to move this summer.

As much as I want him gone, I think that's a bit much. Fighting toxicity with more toxicity doesn't seem like the answer.

All of his clique need to go, Ozil, Kolasinac, Mustafi, Xhaka and Elneny.

Pile of shit right there.

So all the Muslims then?

Bold Tone wrote:

Anzac wrote:

Brilliant opportunity for the new structure to make a statement - tell Ozil he either finds another club and takes a pay cut to market value wages, or he sees out his contract playing in the u23s & never sees 1st team football for us again, not even the CCup.  Alternatively he can buy out his remaining 3 years and depart now as a free agent.

If you honestly think he will give up his guaranteed £31million if we banish him from the first team, i think you are in for a disappointment.
We cannot force him to take a pay cut as we have signed the contract.
The best we can do is pay him off upfront to leave but the amount will remain £31million unless he agrees.
Think about it.
What would you do if you were paid £350k a week and your boss says you continue to earn that but come in and do nothing for 2 years or pay £31million out of your own pocket to go and look for another job?

I was trying to be positive even if a bit unrealistic.
I know very well that he's unlikely too agree to anything like that & what I was trying to infer is that if he's unwilling to look to resolve this make some concessions that his playing days should be over if we're going to have to take the hit financially - but I doubt the club would do so.  

So far as paying him out is concerned I wonder if we could do so in instalments over the time frame of his remaining years on contract.

Have read that he's rejected interest from China as he says it's too low quality to be joining at 30, so he would seem to want to continue to have a career and play at a certain level - hence my comments about rotting on the bench for the Reserves.

Hope this is true and Ozil makes his presence here untenable.

Rubbing my hands.

Is this the club leaking against him? I'd honestly love to see him off the books. I don't have that much malice toward him but he's fucking expensive and pretty useless so hey.

go on mesut, i'm rooting for you to be successful in any attempts to get your worthless ass out of this club.

He has to go. And it's not because of his effort or lack of it. I thought Hazard lacked effort too off the ball in the final. It's what he does on it though and Ozil has completely lost that.

Congrats to Mesut. Love is a beautiful thing.

Gurjen must be foaming at the mouth.

Erdogan should help get Ozil to his favorite football team in Istanbul, Başakşehir.

Claudius wrote:

Congrats to Mesut. Love is a beautiful thing.

Thought this was a photoshop. This guy....

Congratulations Mr & Mrs Ozil.

Am i reading too much into it or is it telling that Arsenal.com hasn't acknowledged his wedding?
https://www.arsenal.com/news
Even his biggest critics here haven't been that cold as the above posts show.
I predict him not being picked for even the pre-season.

Anyways, for his wedding, a look back at what i think will have been his last season

Bold Tone wrote:

Am i reading too much into it or is it telling that Arsenal.com hasn't acknowledged his wedding?
https://www.arsenal.com/news
Even his biggest critics here haven't been that cold as the above posts show.
I predict him not being picked for even the pre-season.

Anyways, for his wedding, a look back at what i think will have been his last season

Don't think it's strange at all. Have the club ever made any announcements or articles acknowledging players getting married? I don't recall that ever happening.

Edit:
After a quick search, the closest thing I could find was a tweet by Walcott a couple years ago. Only official article that had something like that in it was a press conference where Emery was talking about Ozil getting married this summer from back in January.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/whats-latest-mesut-ozil

Guess who wasn’t invited ...

flobaba wrote:

Guess who wasn’t invited ...

Heard unai and recep were both groomsmen. The stag do was mad

Claudius wrote:

Congrats to Mesut. Love is a beautiful thing.

Oh, I can already hear it:

For me, it didn't matter who was Best Man, it mattered that it was the Best Man. The truth is that not having the Best Man would have been disrespecting the roots of my ancestors.

flobaba wrote:

Congratulations Mr & Mrs Ozil.

Seconded / ditto

Ffs, what was that about only taking a picture with Erdogan because it would be disrespectful not to, then? Little shit And it's the dishonesty I'm talking about here, not inviting Erdogan to his wedding. Undermines his entire racism rant imo.

What a man. Unai ain't a coach , Mesut knows. Now that Emery is staying Ozil can go somewhere else and play for someone who coaches and live happily ever after. But think of the other players , Unai can't coach.

GooneriC wrote:

What a man. Unai ain't  a coach , Mesut knows. Now that Emery is staying Ozil can go somewhere else and play for someone who coaches and live happily ever after. But think of the other players , Unai can't coach.

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