We've lost SEVEN games this year already? Fuck me. Wenger out!
Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert wrote: We've lost SEVEN games this year already?
We've lost SEVEN games this year already?
And drawn two.
We sure showed Östersund in the first leg though.
Tbf, the football we play makes it feel like it's been a lot more than just 7 games.
Ozil needs to take some blame. A true player is tested in adversity. Ozil sucks at adversity. He lacks personality when it is needed the most.
What’s so painful about some of those defeats is some of them were lost in the tunnel or before, not on the field. In both of these City games we put up the semblance of a fight at first but we never stood a chance. We just never had the defend once they came at us, and judging by the leaked comments, our players know we have nothing in some of these games. It would be great to see us losing with spirit
Sicario wrote: Ozil needs to take some blame. A true player is tested in adversity. Ozil sucks at adversity. He lacks personality when it is needed the most.
There's evidence for and against. ManU and Liverpool at home say otherwise for example.
Honestly, I sometimes think that if I could choose between Ozil now or a hypothetical Rosicky in his prime but with no injury issues, I might go with Rosicky. Rosicky put in a shift defensively, could be useful in a different manager's pressing scheme, presented more goal threat, and doesn't need the team formation tailored to him.
You're going to get murdered for that post, kami.
Username checks out, I guess..
Nothing wrong with the post. I’m an Ozil fan, but I know that half my serious football friends don’t rate him for more or less the same reasons. And the other half love him. He’ll be helped by a serious manager. He’s wasted his prime under Wenger.
Well, for starters, the claim the Rosicky was even that much more of a goal threat is dubious at best. Even before he joined Arsenal he wasn't out scoring by any measure. Nor did he ever create as many chances.
But I guess he could press like Flamini.
Yeah, that part is off. Recall bias. Probably remembers some screamers. British football pundits love to beat up on Ozil. You’d think it’s part of their training.
Mirth wrote: Well, for starters, the claim the Rosicky was even that much more of a goal threat is dubious at best. Even before he joined Arsenal he wasn't out scoring by any measure. Nor did he ever create as many chances. But I guess he could press like Flamini.
Rosicky was silky but under pressure at key moments in games would over hit the vital pass or blast the shot right over the bar. It was only when he was more of less finished that he had the calmness to place the ball in the net and looked like scoring.
Yeah I have my criticisms of Ozil but Rosicky wasn't close. Rosicky was great entertainment, lovely player to watch on the ball but he was never consistently good. Certainly not the sort of difference maker Ozil is on form.
Qwiss! wrote: Yeah I have my criticisms of Ozil but Rosicky wasn't close. Rosicky was great entertainment, lovely player to watch on the ball but he was never consistently good. Certainly not the sort of difference maker Ozil is on form.
That's why he mentioned a hypothetical Rosicky in his peak. Even after his peak Rosicky was a lovely player who is technically brilliant and has the drive to carry the ball.
All of our playmakers are flawed one way or another, only Bergkamp was close to perfection.
Rosicky shits on all our current attacking players.
Even before his injury, at his peak, Rosicky was just as likely to go missing in games as Ozil.
Agree on Bergkamp. He had it all. Truly another level above Ozil, Cesc, etc even though they are/were themselves world class for us.
Bergkamp at his peak is light years ahead of every creative player we've had since.
Helped that he was a proper second striker.
For that matter, never mind Bergkamp, few have even come close to matching Pires.
Now I'm sad.
Helps that Bergkamp was actually a striker in his early days and not like these going-for-the-assist first type no 10s we see these days. The guys from his day knew being able to score as a no 10 was just as, if not more important than assisting.
Big Willie wrote: The guys from his day knew being able to score as a no 10 was just as, if not more important than assisting.
The guys from his day knew being able to score as a no 10 was just as, if not more important than assisting.
It's not a generational thing - the likes of Hazard or De Bryune know when to go for goal or when to play the final pass. It's just being able to make good decisions and that's a result of years of coaching.
I think that's just your memory tricking you Willie. Bergkamp was on a wholly different level as a finisher, but he didn't score much more frequently than Özil when he played as a #10.
