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Arsenal v/s Norwich; League Cup; Tuesday, 24th October, 19:45

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Yeah, I'm so over seeing Giroud and Walcott start any games. Let's give their positions to actually talented young'uns FFS.

Qwiss

Clrnc wrote:
It's a pity we don't have enough squad depth to form 2 teams with all players in their natural position. But I would play something like this going forward, sick of watching shit attacking players that has no potential upsides.

-------------------GK
--------------CB-CB-CB
Debuchy--AMN--Wilshere--Da Silva
-----Nelson---Giroud---Nketiah/Iwobi

Where do you get all those CBs though? If Chambers comes back maybe you can go Debuchy, Holding, Chambers but we are still short at right back.

Amazing that Wenger sold his 2nd choice RWB, LWB and a centre half this summer without replacing them. Keeping Gabriel would have covered at least 2 of those positions for this competition and the Europa qualifying.

Clrnc

Bielik will be fit by December, but I wonder since CB is the least demanding position could we not play Mertesacker there twice a week?

Otherwise, keep Debuchy at RCB and play Osei-Tutu at RB. By all accounts he's been pretty impressive at youth levels.

goon

I don't think it's a bad thing for Nelson to play at RWB, but needs to be a little braver on the ball and a little more positive with his positioning. Whenver he decided to take people on he was successful but more often than not he played it safe. In pre-season he played the RWB role more like an attacker, whereas he's now playing more like a defensive player. I don't think it helps playing next to Walcott as it offers no potential of combinations, he'd do a lot better next to Jack, Iwobi or Mesut.

Segway

Just saw we might get disqualified because we made a sub too many in extra time.

goon

It's a load of rubbish, basically a journo completely misinterpreting the rules, which state that you're allowed 1 extra sub in extra time only, key word there being extra, i.e. on top of the usual 3. City made 3 subs in extra time.

USArsenal

yeah, rules don't say that you can use "only" your 4th sub in ET.. They have already squashed those rumours

Segway

Well they got their click I guess.

lorddulaarsenal

Good on Eddie. He looked lively pre season. One to keep an eye out on.

Very quick on the turn and pacey. Breath of fresh air watching him

lorddulaarsenal

Oh and we really should just bin Theo

speedy

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Oh and we really should just bin Theo

Something like 60% of players drop a level within 2 years after an ACL injury these days, the game is so fast it's so much harder to return to previous level post ACL than 10 years ago.

Bold Tone

What about the ones who already were on level 1 pre-operation?

Klaus

speedy wrote:
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Oh and we really should just bin Theo

Something like 60% of players drop a level within 2 years after an ACL injury these days, the game is so fast it's so much harder to return to previous level post ACL than 10 years ago.

Is that your personal estimation Speedy, or are there stats that support it? This corresponds perfectly with my gut feeling.

It also seems to me that the players who do get back to their old level struggle for several years doing so. In the past my amateur observation was that if you spent a season out, you'd spend another season struggling on the field before you found your feet again, but the recovery seems to take several years now. It's partly why I think people were harsh on Ox. I don't think they realise how close his career came to being over at one point.

speedy

Klaus wrote:
speedy wrote:
Something like 60% of players drop a level within 2 years after an ACL injury these days, the game is so fast it's so much harder to return to previous level post ACL than 10 years ago.

Is that your personal estimation Speedy, or are there stats that support it? This corresponds perfectly with my gut feeling.

It also seems to me that the players who do get back to their old level struggle for several years doing so. In the past my amateur observation was that if you spent a season out, you'd spend another season struggling on the field before you found your feet again, but the recovery seems to take several years now. It's partly why I think people were harsh on Ox. I don't think they realise how close his career came to being over at one point.

The stat is 62% from memory, but I rounded it of to 60% for simplicity. The game is just so fast in the prem now it's unreal, if you loose a bit your smoked. The rehab is better and better but the demand of the sport is higher overall. Even someone like Danny Ings was very good before his knee went better than people realise he was destined to be special. Now he just warms the bench.

Tactics

Claudius wrote:
Tactics wrote:
I had a quick look at the line ups of the other big teams that are playing tonight : City are playing both Aguero and Jesus upfront and have the likes of De Bruijne, Sane, Stones etc on the bench. Man United have Lukaku, Matic, Mkhitaryan and Mata on the bench. These are all players regularly playing CL football

These are also teams that played on Saturday. We played Sunday thanks to our participation in the European Carabao Cup. Wenger did the right thing in resting all our main players, not even putting them on the bench.

Yeah those 24 hours weigh more on our players than the other players midweek exertion in the CL(even discounting all the free days our players have had whilst those players travel around Europe playing CL matches). No wonder Henry says it's too comfortable at Arsenal.

goon

Those guys whinge about the league cup, no sorry, the Cabraro Cup, as much as anyone. It’s a shit completion that shouldn’t exist, I don’t think I’ve even watched the league cup final since we were last in it. May as well use it to develop our kids, it’s the only thing that will make it meaningful.

flobaba

Yes, but what does development mean nowadays? Just toss them on and watch them play?

arsedocmd

Just watched the highlights. Kid's celebration game is top notch.

Clrnc

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/25/eddie-nketiah-arsenal-goalscoring-machine-chelsea?CMP=share_btn_tw

Nice article on Nketiah. Chelsea's loss is our gain.

goon

Yeah, I read it this morning.

I like the look of the kid but there's a lot of media hype over a short, albeit impressive and decisive, cameo appearance.

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