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General Football 17/18

Jed

Ramsey having a stormer for Wales.
Xhaka brilliant for the Swiss yesterday.
Özil with a MOTM performance for the Germans yesterday.

And some people still think Wenger ain't the problem.

Mirth

Verratti was absolutely destroyed by Isco last night - Isco must be 2017's best midfielder.

Clrnc

Yep, no contest to be honest.

flobaba

I was having a chat with a mate earlier about the state of English football. I was wondering what you guys over there think. I'm of the opinion that the youth development system and coaching in England lags terribly behind those of the other European football powerhouses - Germany, France, Spain, Italy. My question is why? They do well enough in youth championships, why do most of the players fall by the wayside when it comes to translating those performances to the senior team?

Mirth

Fundamentally it boils down to coaching and the support structures in place - remember it wasn't so long ago that Spain were the perennial underachievers in international football. Similarly Germany revamped their youth systems drastically at the start of the last decade in anticipation of the 2006 WC and they've been reaping benefits ever since.

I also think clubs in other leagues are a lot more patient whereas even midtable clubs in the PL would rather recruit elsewhere than invest in local talent as it's more time consuming.

QuincyAbeyie

Özil's been great so far.

frusciante

Lobotka-remember the name. He will be big big player

Ray

frusciante wrote:
Lobotka-remember the name. He will be big big player

Has a bit of Modric about him. England being completely outplayed.

frusciante

Ray wrote:
frusciante wrote:
Lobotka-remember the name. He will be big big player

Has a bit of Modric about him. England being completely outplayed.

yup, he is fearless under pressure and makes the midfield tick. we miss such a player at arsenal so much

Segway

frusciante wrote:
Lobotka-remember the name. He will be big big player

I like him. Was wasted away in the Danish league.

Ricky1985

Chamberlain, when kept on a very short leash and made to know his place on a football field: hugging the touchline, getting up and down and getting crosses in, I'm down for that, but my word he's one of the thickest footballers we've ever had play for us. I won't miss that one little bit.

Ricky1985

There's not a single proper quality player in this England team. They're beyond dreadful.

goon

Ricky1985 wrote:
Chamberlain, when kept on a very short leash and made to know his place on a football field: hugging the touchline, getting up and down and getting crosses in, I'm down for that, but my word he's one of the thickest footballers we've ever had play for us. I won't miss that one little bit.

Think he'll infuriate Klopp, especially in a central position, but who knows.

Ray

He will do well in CM if he's played there.

mohan

Yep. He will lose the ball so many times it would be good for us as competition.

Bryant

Ricky1985 wrote:
Chamberlain, when kept on a very short leash and made to know his place on a football field: hugging the touchline, getting up and down and getting crosses in, I'm down for that, but my word he's one of the thickest footballers we've ever had play for us. I won't miss that one little bit.

flobaba

Ray wrote:
He will do well in CM if he's played there.

He will not be played there because he is not nearly good enough.

Burnwinter

Ricky1985 wrote:
Chamberlain, when kept on a very short leash and made to know his place on a football field: hugging the touchline, getting up and down and getting crosses in, I'm down for that, but my word he's one of the thickest footballers we've ever had play for us. I won't miss that one little bit.

Between injuries, inconsistency and attitude I've thought of him as a liability for years. He might somehow come good at Liverpool, I think it's unlikely and if he does it'll be an indictment of our setup.

Clrnc

Ricky1985 wrote:
Chamberlain, when kept on a very short leash and made to know his place on a football field: hugging the touchline, getting up and down and getting crosses in, I'm down for that, but my word he's one of the thickest footballers we've ever had play for us. I won't miss that one little bit.

Must be tough for you to see him go since you are one of the few who rated him and had high hopes for him, especially as a fullback.

Seems like not long ago he just made his debut for us and tore Blackburn apart.

est

Slowly but surely working his way up in the 'biggest pieces of shit in football' category.

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