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Thomas Lemar

TambourineMan

Burnwinter wrote:
I think this is the right kind of move too.

I've been looking at his injury record as well, couple of minor ankle injuries in the past two seasons, but not too bad.

Not that it isn't galling when you think of the sort of player we could've got for £50m two or three seasons ago.

This hurts more so for Arsenal than most clubs throwing crazy money around this summer because we've always been cash rich and have poorly managed our working capital.

Burnwinter

Yep it is pretty clear with the benefit of hindsight that we'd have made much better returns, in both footballing and financial terms, on appropriate player investment than we have on sitting on our cash pile.

Big Willie

As with all walks of life Burns. Money lying around uninvested is usually not a wise thing to do

USArsenal

Its ridiculous to me how much money is being thrown around for players this summer.. the figures are staggering. This summer will utterly shatter any previous transfer window in terms of total money spent on players in the bigger European leagues.. and not by a small amount.

goon

You could argue we have spent poorly but we have spent over the last 4 years. The one that really kills is the Petr Cech summer. This is all said in hindsight of course but we were linked with both Dybala and van Dijk that year and could have signed both for a total of £35m. Now they're probably worth a combined 150m at least. There's also the fact that they'd probably have won us the league ahead of Leicester.

Clrnc

The chinese clubs has successfully made the transfer market go mad.

goon wrote:
You could argue we have spent poorly but we have spent over the last 4 years. The one that really kills is the Petr Cech summer. This is all said in hindsight of course but we were linked with both Dybala and van Dijk that year and could have signed both for a total of £35m. Now they're probably worth a combined 150m at least. There's also the fact that they'd probably have won us the league ahead of Leicester.

Agreed. We signed Alexis and Ozil the previous 2 summer and then go and undo all our good work by just signing Cech. We could have moved ahead of the rest by maintaining a good summer and subsequently winning the league.

There's so much to hate about how we approach transfer windows. We are just not proactive enough and don't have the killer mentality to buy players for winning.

JazzG

Burnwinter wrote:
Not that it isn't galling when you think of the sort of player we could've got for £50m two or three seasons ago.

The people running this club did not bank on investing in players, instead hoarded cash. Players prices seem like they have doubled within 3-4 years whereas cash most certainly hasn't. You can then sell off those players for new purchases, like how R.Madrid have done in recent years.

Clrnc wrote:
Agreed. We signed Alexis and Ozil the previous 2 summer and then go and undo all our good work by just signing Cech. We could have moved ahead of the rest by maintaining a good summer and subsequently winning the league.

There's so much to hate about how we approach transfer windows. We are just not proactive enough and don't have the killer mentality to buy players for winning.

We are always playing catch up when it comes to transfers. If there is one thing Wenger has done consistently in his time here is short change the squad. I can't remember a single season where we have had a complete squad. That summer we only signed Cech, that damage then takes more than one window to repair.

USArsenal

JazzG wrote:
We are always playing catch up when it comes to transfers. If there is one thing Wenger has done consistently in his time here is short change the squad. I can't remember a single season where we have had a complete squad. That summer we only signed Cech, that damage then takes more than one window to repair.

Invincibles season.. after that, nope...

JazzG

Even that season was a freak in terms of injuries, we were able to keep the majority of our first XI fit for the entire season. We didn't have that much depth and that is what cost us from winning the FA Cup and CL. Come the latter stages our players were dead on their feet, the PL title was won by then but look at our games against Man Utd & Chelsea and our players just couldn't match them for energy.

If anything the only season where we did have depth was 01/02 where we did have a lot of injuries/suspensions and kept going.

Ricky1985

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Adama Diakhaby's move to Monaco, widely tipped to be Lemar's replacement, is now official.

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Coombs

If Lemar goes to a different PL club...

Rohit

Monaco reportedly closing in on Rachid Ghezzal having already signed Diakhaby.

JazzG

There have been a few rumours that we may have a provisional deal agreed for Lemar and Monaco wanted to sign replacements first. Not sure I believe that but them signing players in his position does indicate they are preparing for next season without him.

BWoolley

Sounds quite likely. Having said that, who knows how binding / enforceable such deals are.

goon

Whatever the case I think we'll sign Lemar. Jardim is the big giveaway.

Bold Tone

USArsenal wrote:
JazzG wrote:
We are always playing catch up when it comes to transfers. If there is one thing Wenger has done consistently in his time here is short change the squad. I can't remember a single season where we have had a complete squad. That summer we only signed Cech, that damage then takes more than one window to repair.

Invincibles season.. after that, nope...

JazzG wrote:
Even that season was a freak in terms of injuries, we were able to keep the majority of our first XI fit for the entire season. We didn't have that much depth and that is what cost us from winning the FA Cup and CL. Come the latter stages our players were dead on their feet, the PL title was won by then but look at our games against Man Utd & Chelsea and our players just couldn't match them for energy.

If anything the only season where we did have depth was 01/02 where we did have a lot of injuries/suspensions and kept going.

Even the 98 double winning season was won by a very small core of top players.
The rest of the squad were extremely average and were immediately out of the Premiership the moment we got rid.
We sold Overmars and Petit and we, duly, ran out of stream towards the end of the 99 season gifting manu a hallowed treble.
We signed Pires to cover Overmars but a Petit-sized hole remained in midfield till we got Gilberto after the 2002 World Cup.
I remember Vieira, repeatedly, questioning the club's ambition in his protracted contract negotiation for several years after this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/1490728.stm
Resident buffoon, Peter Hill-Wood, got involved and "incredibly" blamed Vieira for not continuing to win with an inferior squad.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/hill-wood-hits-back-at-vieiras-jibes-6355096.html
fungus loved this and put his oar in to try to destabilise us more.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/3006074/Ferguson-sets-sights-on-Vieira.html
Luckily the spuds gifted us Campbell and we, subsequently, won the double.
Again Wenger defaulted to his usual non-investment in quality and we lost the following year.
He, finally, digs into the coffers and buys a Petit replacement in Gilberto and after adding a bit more quality, (Reyes), the "Invincibles" were created.
Of course he reverts to type the following season and the team comes up short in that semi-final at the chavs.
By 2005, the team was running on fumes and fluked the FA Cup but fell short in the CL final against barca as we entered the post-Highbury barren era that all of you are familiar with.

BWoolley

Wasn't the CL final in the year after the FA Cup? We signed Ade, Diaby and Walcott that winter (Jan 2006), if I remember correctly.

Bold Tone

You are right but doesn't change much.
In 2005 , Diaby was a prospect, Ade couldn't hit a barn door and Walcott couldn't control a ball.

banduan

we signed Theo during the invincibles right?

Qwiss

banduan wrote:
we signed Theo during the invincibles right?

No following season. Think we only signed Reyes in that window.

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