Debuchy was terrible after he came back from that first injury. Completely disinterested.

disiniterested, yes... but i actually meant his last injury.. he came on for one game, and looked good in the first like 30 minutes of that game before he got injured again

Looks like Lyon has got their Lacazette replacement in Bertrand Traore for 15m pounds. I wonder how Chelsea gets so much for their reserves.

They need a Lacazette replacement regardless. He'll leave for Atletico at some point if we don't sign him.

Everywhere I've seen says Lyon paid £8.8m for Traore.

Ricky1985 wrote:

Everywhere I've seen says Lyon paid £8.8m for Traore.

Ah. Seems i jumped the gun on that then. 

opinion poll time. on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the happiest, how happy would you be if these scenarios happen:

  1. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy lemar, mahrez and lacazette
  2. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy mahrez and aguero
  3. sanchez stays, ozil stays, we buy lacazette
  4. sanchez stays, ozil leaves, we buy lemar and lacazette

??

hopefully the first and last time we have to negotiate with aulus

  1. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy lemar, mahrez and lacazette ---- 5
  2. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy mahrez and aguero ------ 4
  3. sanchez stays, ozil stays, we buy lacazette -------- 6
  4. sanchez stays, ozil leaves, we buy lemar and lacazette ----- 7

Anything that involves Sanchez leaving is a shit option.

jones wrote:

Think Park came in the window Chelsea signed Hazard didn't he? There were reports at the time that Park was snatched when he was already in a hotel to sign a contract with Lille. Not sure if I can see Wenger being petty enough to sign a player just to fuck another club over but there aren't many other scenarios I can think of

Park came in a year before Hazard I think. Wasn't the rumour going around this was him helping out Monaco because they were in debt and needed money quick? Sounds like bs either way.

  1. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy lemar, mahrez and lacazette - 4
  2. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy mahrez and aguero - 4
  3. sanchez stays, ozil stays, we buy lacazette - 4
  4. sanchez stays, ozil leaves, we buy lemar and lacazette - 4

We need more this summer. Much more. Özil and Sanchez need to stay and we need top players coming in. Last summer was utter horseshit any way you looked at it. We can't repeat that nonsense. We're not just maintaining status quo this time, we've got ground to make up.

Latest talk in the rags seems to be that AW wants a deal done before the OZ pre-season.
Seems we have made an offer of just under 50m, but that Lyon have now raised their fee to around 57m.
With Aubameyangs fee reportedly around 61m I am surprised we are not all over it considering AWs interest the summer he went to BVB.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/26/arsene-wenger-wants-alexandre-lacazette-transfer-before-arsenals-pre-season-tour-of-australia-6735118/

mdgoonah41 wrote:

opinion poll time. on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the happiest, how happy would you be if these scenarios happen:

  1. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy lemar, mahrez and lacazette
  2. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy mahrez and aguero
  3. sanchez stays, ozil stays, we buy lacazette
  4. sanchez stays, ozil leaves, we buy lemar and lacazette

??

5.  Sanchez leaves, Ozil leaves, we buy Martial, Lemar, Aubameyang/Lacazette, Mahrez and a CM like Goretzka / Milinkovic-Savic.

Aubameyang
Martial - Lemar - Mahrez.
Xhaka - Goretzka / Milinkovic-Savic

mdgoonah41 wrote:

opinion poll time. on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the happiest, how happy would you be if these scenarios happen:

  1. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy lemar, mahrez and lacazette
  2. sanchez leaves, ozil stays, we buy mahrez and aguero
  3. sanchez stays, ozil stays, we buy lacazette
  4. sanchez stays, ozil leaves, we buy lemar and lacazette

??

1 - 3
2 - 4
3 - 5
4 - 7

You reckon we'd be better off with Lemar over Ozil qs?

3 would probably be best for me and I'd only give that a 4/10. I don't consider Ozil and Sanchez staying as plus points given that they were here last year. I'm with Klaus.

Option 3 is the only acceptable option for the frontline. If we are playing 3 4 3, then I will be happy going into big games with Lacazette, Sanchez and Ozil. Team Z.
Any option that includes Sanchez leaving is damn near suicide. That's why I would be willing to give him away for free next season. We absolutely need him to get us back into Top 3-4 this season. To start the season out of top 4 and without Sanchez would feel like someone has taken a dump on our heads after a night of beer and curry

Anzac wrote:

5.  Sanchez leaves, Ozil leaves, we buy Martial, Lemar, Aubameyang/Lacazette, Mahrez and a CM like Goretzka / Milinkovic-Savic.

Aubameyang
Martial - Lemar - Mahrez.
Xhaka - Goretzka / Milinkovic-Savic

so basically an entirely new front line and midfield pairing... 

yeah, not gonna happen. 

USArsenal wrote:
Anzac wrote:

5.  Sanchez leaves, Ozil leaves, we buy Martial, Lemar, Aubameyang/Lacazette, Mahrez and a CM like Goretzka / Milinkovic-Savic.

Aubameyang
Martial - Lemar - Mahrez.
Xhaka - Goretzka / Milinkovic-Savic

so basically an entirely new front line and midfield pairing... 

yeah, not gonna happen

Agreed - and even less so with aw as manager because it would upset his continuity required for his intuitive style.
Although it's probably what we need, & if you did it right there are ways to minimise the impacts.
Besides which we would be looking at much the same if we lost both Ozil & Sanchez on top of the need to replace Giroud.

Anzac wrote:
USArsenal wrote:

so basically an entirely new front line and midfield pairing... 

yeah, not gonna happen

Agreed - and even less so with aw as manager because it would upset his continuity required for his intuitive style.
Although it's probably what we need, & if you did it right there are ways to minimise the impacts.

I disagree, I can't think of any manager of a decent level that has completely replaced half of his team in one go. 

Tam wrote:
Anzac wrote:

Agreed - and even less so with aw as manager because it would upset his continuity required for his intuitive style.
Although it's probably what we need, & if you did it right there are ways to minimise the impacts.

I disagree, I can't think of any manager of a decent level that has completely replaced half of his team in one go. 

Normally because any club of any decent level shouldn't need to have half the team replaced at once,
and most teams wouldn't have the financial resources to do so, let alone the appetite.    
Granted it's basically a perfect storm scenario so far as minimising the impacts as it's not easy to do so.