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Ranieri long gone

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I reckon Vardy will be snapped up by Liverpool. He's a Klopp kinda player - mental energy and pressing.

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Coombs wrote:
Bah, they are cowards. Opposite of brave in ever way. Ranieri well may have lost the dressing room, but what manager is going to come in and guarantee any better than Ranieri at this stage?

If they stay up now, they'll feel vindicated, but it's not really a measure of anything because Ranieri for another 13 games can't be tested, can he?

This one is on the players and overly self-important board who think having money means knowing what's best. He should've been allowed to see out the CL campaign at the very, very least. This sport is becoming an abomination.

Very well said. It's a shambles.

Klaus

flobaba wrote:
Re: your second paragraph, I don't agree. I don't know the whats, whys, or wheres of Leicester's strange season but once a manager has lost the dressing room then he has to go. No coming back from that.

There's also the possibility that it's the dressing room and not the manager that needs to be replaced, of course.

Qwiss

General wrote:
Football is all about results. No place for sentiments.

Maybe to the people who own the clubs, to the fans its mostly sentiment.

Qwiss

I'm glad we didn't get Mahrez and Vardy now. I think its clear that Kante had genuine ambition and thats why he moved. Vardy and Mahrez were happy to coast and they've both been lazy shits this season.

General

We bid for Vardy and if he wanted to come he would've come. It's difficult to accuse players of lacking ambition when they turn us down these days. If I was in Vardy's shoes I would have too. I never bought into the hype around Mahrez and it's no coincidence no one put in a credible bid for him. Kante was the heartbeat of the team and that's why a club with real ambition has gone and bought him. This is where Leicester were projected to be two seasons ago so their current form doesn't surprise me at all although you can't ignore Claudio's culpability in this mess. He inherited a very good team from Pearson and he's bought badly. He's trying to integrate too many players at once and their balance has completely gone out of the window.

Claudius

I'm just annoyed that this sad bunch who are staring down the prospect of trips to Villa Park and Loftus Road next season were able to beat us to the title last year.

Clrnc

General wrote:
I never bought into the hype around Mahrez and it's no coincidence no one put in a credible bid for him.

According to Mahrez, we did but Leicester rejected it.

Of course we can also be referred to as "no one" though.

Klaus

General wrote:
I never bought into the hype around Mahrez and it's no coincidence no one put in a credible bid for him.

I said this last season too. I was keeping an eye on a Leicester forum every now and then because the betting companies kept offering insane odds on them every weekend, and most of their fans wanted him benched from Februari and onwards. He had a wonderful 3-4 months during the fall but he turned into a complete hype player afterwards, similar to Nasri and Nani in the past (although you could argue that Mahrez was never half as talented as either of them). He was never close to Kanté or Vardy last season, never mind players like Özil in the rest of the league. He just had the fancier profile of the three.

Claudius

I don't know. I would still take him over Walcott and Ox. He would link up well with Ozil. Maybe not world class (nor is Vardy), but would be a good starter in a title-challenging team.

General

Clrnc wrote:
General wrote:
I never bought into the hype around Mahrez and it's no coincidence no one put in a credible bid for him.

According to Mahrez, we did but Leicester rejected it.

Of course we can also be referred to as "no one" though.

Probably agent talk to earn himself a fat contract. Who knows Wenger will confirm it in a few years.

Bryant

Klaus wrote:
flobaba wrote:
Re: your second paragraph, I don't agree. I don't know the whats, whys, or wheres of Leicester's strange season but once a manager has lost the dressing room then he has to go. No coming back from that.

There's also the possibility that it's the dressing room and not the manager that needs to be replaced, of course.

It's much easier to replace the manager than players though. I think we would be the only club that would protect Wenger by selling a bunch of players who didn't like him.

Looks like there's one player happy that Ranieri's gone:

Claudius

is he happy that Ranieri's gone or did he just like the club's status?

Bryant

Claudius wrote:
is he happy that Ranieri's gone or did he just like the club's status?

I just assumed based on his like 😆

It'd be awfully weird to like that post if you didn't want the manager sacked though.

Ray

I would definitely still take Mahrez off them, he is Hazard level at least.

Qwiss

Bryant wrote:
Claudius wrote:
is he happy that Ranieri's gone or did he just like the club's status?

I just assumed based on his like 😆

It'd be awfully weird to like that post if you didn't want the manager sacked though.

Like how Ox wants Wenger sacked?

Claudius

Fake news. Sad.

Clrnc

General wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
According to Mahrez, we did but Leicester rejected it.

Of course we can also be referred to as "no one" though.

Probably agent talk to earn himself a fat contract. Who knows Wenger will confirm it in a few years.

He said it himself, not his agent.

General

My point is that in the absence of any official statements from either clubs, which there was in Vardy's case, it is likely his agent told him there are interested clubs including us. Bids and salaries would've been speculated as you would expect in this scenario when agents are trying to cash in. We had different priorities and were clearly after a relatively cheap striker. I don't believe there were any serious negotiations for Mahrez but that's just my view.

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