mags wrote:
The Dems are not obsessed with Russia. The facts speak for themselves. The Russians Did in fact influence the election, as much to their surprise as anyone's. They did hack into the DNC emails. They did expose dirty shenanigans within the party. If the Dems didn't pursue the question of interference by the Russians, they would truly continue to be pitiful. Let's not forget that HRC was not America's darling, that she and her campaign managers totally misread the Rust Belt (except Bill). And so, pressure from people across the country have brought the Dems out of their browbeaten state to one of action.
As for ACA, don't throw it off a cliff. Dems agree, Obama agrees there are flaws that need to be corrected. For this country It is a decent health care plan, the first step towards universal health care. It is a lifeline for many Americans. I've heard their stories. Without ACA they would be in life/death situations. One example, A baby born with a congenital heart defect, now healthy. It is a serious start to improving health care coverage here.
Spot on mags.
It's easy for those on the outside to cry foul when someone complains about the Republicans or about Trump, because there are problems with everything and everyone, and because in terms of US foreign policy (which, lets face it, is the sexy stuff to get all activisty about for most folks around the world), people think they can write the whole fucking country off. The fact is, all countries are terrible. Literally all of them. Even places that aren't countries but want to be, i.e. Palestine, are terrible. So who does get to complain? Who does get to say, you know what, this crosses the line for me? Apparently, only people who aren't politicians get to say that. It's absurd.
The reality is, we need health care reform, and the ACA was a step towards the greater good in every single metric you could possibly measure it by. It's still not good enough, however, and as mags points out just about everyone with half a brain, including HRC and Obama himself, recognizes that. Without it, my own mother would not have health insurance. Maybe it's just that people on this board are generally quite affluent and don't really get it? Real life is real. It does matter, all of it. The Russia nonsense, talk of grounds for impeachment, tax returns, conflicts of interest, AHCA vs ACA...it all matters.
The only typical moralising that is going on here is this strange "he who is without sin cast the first stone" nonsense I keep running into, particularly with folks that don't live in the US.
