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Manure vs Arsenal Nov 19 2016 Saturday

SimplyThePest

The Ramsey inclusion was shit, bloke's not a wide player and hasn't been playing well anyway. If he didn't trust Iwobi, why not just play the old Sanchez-Giroud-Ozil-Walcott attack? Man Utd/Old Trafford/Mourinho combination must've wreaked havoc on Wenger's brain!

goon

I've read a couple of match reports and comments and am really surprised to see Pogba getting some praise. I thought he looked poor and clumsy. Am I alone in thinking that?

Qwiss

goon wrote:
I've read a couple of match reports and comments and am really surprised to see Pogba getting some praise. I thought he looked poor and clumsy. Am I alone in thinking that?

He was better than any of our mids. He wasn't great in attack but he was strong and kept the ball well in midfield I thought. Our players were just bouncing off him. Not £100m worth but not exactly poor either.

jones

Clrnc wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
Even the Darmian tackle on Jenks that should have been a second yellow?

I thought Mariner gave us fuck all apart from the penalty call. Which TBF he got completely wrong as well.

In big matches referees tend to let that one go if it was in the first half. Seen it time and time again. They don't dare to spoil to spectacle.

I rewatched the pen time and time again and have to admit he was excellent in not giving it. The United player was already falling even before Monreal put his hands out, which in any case was a soft touch and in no way strong enough to bring him down. In real time it looked stonewall but replays were conclusive for me.

Yeah, good decision. Compare that with the penalty on Wilson at Stoke, don't think I've ever seen a more blatant one not given. Good thing Bournemouth won anyway in the end.

yuv

goon wrote:
I've read a couple of match reports and comments and am really surprised to see Pogba getting some praise. I thought he looked poor and clumsy. Am I alone in thinking that?

No, he was shit.

Klaus

I thought Pogba was okay. He created their goal for one thing. He suffers from the same thing as Özil currently, but the problem is obviously much bigger at a club where Marouane Fellaini is your creative midfielder.

Gurgen

So we weren't that bad 😉

Clrnc

JazzG

Missed the match but hear it was the same ol shit at Old Trafford so glad we at least got a point. We have some serious mental block playing at their ground, fucking joke now. Mate who watched it says our system is so reliant on certain players. Without Cazorla we have not found a combination in the middle that works which is worrying.

Saying that we've had a few tricky games and still within 3 points of the top. Our recent performances are not filling me with much confidence though.

Clrnc

jones wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
In big matches referees tend to let that one go if it was in the first half. Seen it time and time again. They don't dare to spoil to spectacle.

I rewatched the pen time and time again and have to admit he was excellent in not giving it. The United player was already falling even before Monreal put his hands out, which in any case was a soft touch and in no way strong enough to bring him down. In real time it looked stonewall but replays were conclusive for me.

Yeah, good decision. Compare that with the penalty on Wilson at Stoke, don't think I've ever seen a more blatant one not given. Good thing Bournemouth won anyway in the end.

That was disgraceful. I still don't get how they missed that pen at Stoke. Cannot be more obvious.

Dermot Gallagher agrees that it's not a pen
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10666144/ref-watch-no-penalty-for-antonio-valencia-but-callum-wilson-decision-wrong

General

I like the way the media are making it sound like United blew us away and were somehow robbed of the win. Jose reckons they should've won 2 or 3-0 lol. This was a case of us being poor rather than United being good and if this was their best performance of the season like some would make you believe then I really fear for them.

yuv

Anyone fancy starting a PSG thread? apparently Di Maria's done himself for this (and Pastore).

Jenko, Xhaka and Coq, Alexis and Theo, Giroud. Ramsey and Ox off the bench, maybe Wobi too. Deport Neny.

(goon, don't make this an OP, should be nicer 🙂 ).

Rohit

General wrote:
I like the way the media are making it sound like United blew us away and were somehow robbed of the win.

I don't get it myself. They barely created any chances. It wasn't as if Cech had much to do. There weren't many last ditch tackles or blocks either. They dominated the middle and possession and like most teams in the League got to our box easily but barely threatened the goal as such. It was pretty even in the first half. Alexis takes his chance and it is a very different game altogether.

General

We actually had 55% of the ball.

They were upset they didn't see the same old Arsenal who often come to entertain and leave the points behind. We can and will play better but you couldn't say the same about United. City went there and completely dominated them but came away with a marginal win so the idea that we should've gone there and blown them away was naive at best.

banduan

I'm bloody chuffed at a point considering the circumstances.

Qwiss

Rohit wrote:
General wrote:
I like the way the media are making it sound like United blew us away and were somehow robbed of the win.

I don't get it myself. They barely created any chances. It wasn't as if Cech had much to do. There weren't many last ditch tackles or blocks either. They dominated the middle and possession and like most teams in the League got to our box easily but barely threatened the goal as such. It was pretty even in the first half. Alexis takes his chance and it is a very different game altogether.

Its all about expectations. They've been so bad this season that competing with us looks good for them.

jones

Qwiss! wrote:
Rohit wrote:
I don't get it myself. They barely created any chances. It wasn't as if Cech had much to do. There weren't many last ditch tackles or blocks either. They dominated the middle and possession and like most teams in the League got to our box easily but barely threatened the goal as such. It was pretty even in the first half. Alexis takes his chance and it is a very different game altogether.

Its all about expectations. They've been so bad this season that competing with us looks good for them.

And funnily enough that carcrash faced dickhead Phil Jones tries to belittle us by saying we're apparently playing a world class season and they're having an average one while being only a couple points behind. Quite brave to talk to the media with those porcine facial features

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