Gazza M wrote:

bah humbug. i got excited for nothing with that bran flashback. theyre probably holding it back for the end of the season

good on them for doing that arthur dayne chap justice though. we havent seen many of the great knights in their prime, but this dude was a beast

You'd have a backlash of epic proportions from book nerds much more involved than any of us if they made Dayne anything less of a swordsman. They were already reeling from Jaime losing to Brienne.

Also did I read stuff into the scene that wasn't there because I thought they all but spelled out who was in that tower.

I'm also wondering what they are doing with Jaime, he's certainly in another state of mind compared to the books.

I'm wondering if they are cutting his Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons storylines altogether or if they just pushed it back like Balon taking a dive from the bridge. Pushing it back to make room for a largely nonsensical buddy-cop trip down to Dorne with Bronn I might add.

Rex wrote:

Still enjoy the Arya arc the most, and they finally sped up her training.

Really? I hate her now and I used to be a fan. So bored of the whole thing with Jaqen H'ghar. Its been going on for far too long with very little happening.

The Arya story has been a massive chore it feels like they're getting to the point a lot quicker this season and the fact that they sped through he training in one episode this time made it much more bearable.

Irish gunner wrote:

Dany's plot is moving along quite swiftly, it's all very predictable though. Her army has no cavalry and she just happens to be captured by fucking horselords who then take her to their city and call a meeting of all of the dothraki. Hmmmmmm, how very convenient to have all of these dothraki in one place for the first time in decades.

Stuff like that completely passes me by

I was wondering what the point of that whole charade was.

Irish gunner wrote:

Dany's plot is moving along quite swiftly, it's all very predictable though. Her army has no cavalry and she just happens to be captured by fucking horselords who then take her to their city and call a meeting of all of the dothraki. Hmmmmmm, how very convenient to have all of these dothraki in one place for the first time in decades.

... she had cavalry already, a couple of thousand Second Sons.

Martell dying deviates from the books, and it is certain to impact what happens to Daenerys going forward.

Qwiss! wrote:

Rex wrote:

Still enjoy the Arya arc the most, and they finally sped up her training.

Really? I hate her now and I used to be a fan. So bored of the whole thing with Jaqen H'ghar. Its been going on for far too long with very little happening.

Me too. Her arc was interesting when she was travelling with The Hound.

I think they got the casting of young Ned badly wrong. They managed to put the same terrible wig on him but it felt like amateur hour otherwise. They should have just brought back Bean instead and put some makeup on him. It's far from a perfect solution but it would have been more believable than seeing some scrawny, squinting kid with a completely different face, and it would have given this season a bigger appeal on the whole.

I'm not feeling season 6 so far. Arya's storyline is stalling. So's Dany's. And Jon's. It took them three full episodes to finally get him on his feet and push him out the door from the Night's Watch when it chould have been done in one. Even Tyrion is boring right now.

This is the weirdest thing about Game of Thrones. Martin has been criticised for over a decade for his unfocused writing, with stories going nowhere and peripheral characters eating up too much time and space, and then they go and repeat the exact same mistakes on the show. They did drop a few bad subplots last season, but the bits of story they added themselves in return were unequivocally terrible. Moreover, after five full seasons they should have figured out the pacing by now, and they should have learned how to handle multiple storylines without making every episode feel disjointed.

I agree, I'm half tempted to wait till the end of the season and binge watch all the episodes. Each episode on its own is very unfulfilling.

I agree with Klaus about the casting of younger Ned the wig is the only similarity lol, bringing back Sean Bean would have been better and it would have tied in with other themes of returning in a way.
Otherwise I'm enjoying this show and I don't watch much TV except for football.

Sean Bean must have been furious upon seeing the younger him

Yeah Ned was great, loved that character. Still can't get over how quickly they killed him off in the first season. I hadn't read the books (or even knew they existed when the show started) so for me it was weird how he was beheaded just like that. I thought he was one of the main characters.

Klaus wrote:

Moreover, after five full seasons they should have figured out the pacing by now, and they should have learned how to handle multiple storylines without making every episode feel disjointed.

Spot on. Their audience is secure now too, time for some bolder story telling.

Bring in new writers and ideally, chuck away Martin's preferred conclusion to the series. When the show started everyone was impressed by how well Benioff and Weiss handled adapting complex source material, now they've got the same disease as the books, purposelessly meandering around in the same aesthetic and emotional grooves.

Let's face it, none of us wants to watch a traditional fantasy epic grind to a halt, following all the formulae, for twenty full hours.

Oh come on fellas stop nit picking its still a great show.
If you don't want to watch it fuck off and support Tottenham.

I quite enjoyed the show.

• Potentially Dany's storyline now speeds up. Arya too.
• I always hated Bran. Now his visions are making him an important part of the story. Couldn't care if Ned was played by Justin Beiber. It's just a character in a book.
• Looking forward to Cersei seizing power. Her youngest is obviously far too immature for this shit and falling under the spell of Bernie Sanders. She will definitely take the throne at this point. I just wonder under what circumstances Tommen will fulfill the prophecy.

Biggus wrote:

Oh come on fellas stop nit picking its still a great show.
If you don't want to watch it fuck off and support Tottenham.

Sick of you B&WKBs.

Benioff and Weiss know best?