show hit the warpspeed button with casterly rock and highgarden falling in the space of 15 minutes

that was the first real sighting of casterly rock right? expected something a bit more imperious

Gazza M wrote:

that was the first real sighting of casterly rock right? expected something a bit more imperious

They are taking some serious liberties with GRRM's world at this point.

To get back to the discussion about Dany's motives, they addressed the issue of her birthright in this episode. She came off as petulant, self-mythologising and power hungry in that scene at Dragonstone which I'm sure is not a coincidence. It contrasted nicely to the unassumingness of Jon. The way Missandei recited all of Dany's titles, "breaker of chain, mother of dragons, reightful heir to the iron throne, the unburnt, the khaleesi of the great grass sea", and-so-forth, only to then have Davos going: "This is Jon Snow, and we drove here", was one of the funniest moments this season.

There was clearly a lesson in there about how Dany is viewed by the people in Westeros. Jon points out that there is no birthright; that Ned Stark and Robert overthrew the mad king who would have otherwise burned the seven kingdoms. The irony of Dany coming to Westeros with three dragons and a vast foreign army and, in so many words, calling Jon a traitor to the North is kinda beautiful. ”I was born to rule the seven kingdoms, and I will” is the kind of attitude towards power that is almost certain to see her end up on the wrong side of the history GRRM is writing.

Yeah that bit was great

I'm glad they're skipping the battles, I always find them incredibly tedious watching unless it's done properly. Has Dany basically lost the bulk of her army?

Feels a bit too easy for Euron to just keep popping up with his ships and trolling Dany too. You didn't get any sense of the Iron Islands being remotely relevant in the past.

Funniest bit was "does she like a finger in the arsehole".

I don't like that they're making Tyrion wrong about everything. It's probably to push Dany towards what Olenna was telling her, but Tyrion has always been smarter than both Jaime and Cersei, and even Tywin whose strategic mind they don't seem to miss at all for some reason.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

I don't like that they're making Tyrion wrong about everything. It's probably to push Dany towards what Olenna was telling her, but Tyrion has always been smarter than both Jaime and Cersei, and even Tywin whose strategic mind they don't seem to miss at all for some reason.

it does seem convenient to have him be badly outsmarted twice in the space of 2 episodes

They're just making Dany look vulnerable before she demolishes them. I mean she has 3 freaking dragons, it's ggwp the second they enter the war along with the thousands of dothraki's.

It would've been too easy if she just swooped in and everything worked according to plan.

Good to see Bran arrive at Winterfell. he's the only one who knows about Jon's parentage yeah? And he has said he needs to speak to Jon. I wonder if he'll get that message through though this season, or if lines of communication will go bad and we'll have to wait until next year?

Olenna's revelation and summation of Joffrey was classic. I really thought she'd already poisoned the wine and that Jamie was a goner, but I was wrong.

Arya has to turn up at Winterfell soon too doesn't she?

Asterix wrote:

Arya has to turn up at Winterfell soon too doesn't she?

If she didn't change her plan after she met the wolf.

There's a theory that Arya is the banker in King's Landing. The obvious argument against this is the amount of time it would take her to get there, but then we know D&D don't give a shit about any of that.

Arya could get very annoying if they start just having her be anyone at any time and then conveniently killing people without much hassle.

Yeah, there needs to be some checks and balances, I don't know if there are any limitations to her power but if not it's just far too easy.

Why would she pose as the banker? Surely she'd just go with Jamie. Someone who carries a weapon and can get very close to her.

Better episode.

Some things struck me as stupid.

The extreme failure of scouting with the assault on Casterly Rock. It's a bit annoying when these things have to play out as literally as scouring the castle, shouting "Where are the other Lannisters?"

The incredible diplomatic uselessness of Jon Snow. Arrives at Dragonstone with no proof of the walkers or the Night King and not even a paragraph framed in his mind about how to explain them. Then doesn't mention dragonglass and its importance for days on end.

Bran retraumatising Sansa by starting to recount the events of her wedding to her. Come on, little brother. You may be the three-eyed raven but that doesn't mean you have to be a massive douchecanoe.

Half thought all the stuff about Jon Snow's parentage would come to a head with the dragons bowing to him or something, I wonder if they're saving that one up.

I'm quite pleased by the prospect of Jorah Mormont getting back into the action. I don't like the big battles, but there's been a shortage of sword duelling lately.

Battles so far have looked like real cost saving exercises, hopefully means we'll get something big and cool looking later in the season.

goon wrote:

Yeah, there needs to be some checks and balances, I don't know if there are any limitations to her power but if not it's just far too easy.

Why would she pose as the banker? Surely she'd just go with Jamie. Someone who carries a weapon and can get very close to her.

Because there's another Jaime there? And it would be a lot more difficult to kill and replace the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard than some banker. 

Qwiss! wrote:

Battles so far have looked like real cost saving exercises, hopefully means we'll get something big and cool looking later in the season.

Apparently  £10million was spunked on one episode this season, so we should be in for something huge. 

Shady wrote:

goon wrote:

Yeah, there needs to be some checks and balances, I don't know if there are any limitations to her power but if not it's just far too easy.

Why would she pose as the banker? Surely she'd just go with Jamie. Someone who carries a weapon and can get very close to her.

Because there's another Jaime there? And it would be a lot more difficult to kill and replace the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard than some banker. 

Not if you can magically look like anyone at all.

Anyway if she's going to turn into anyone it should be the Mountain.

She'd have to kill the original mountain first. Not the easiest prospect..