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Get the llamas out lads...

QuincyAbeyie

Aubameyang, yes. Don't know why all the other guys are being discussed in this thread. 🙂

speedy

Well Dortmund never sell, only sahin? Everyone else went for free and he has 5 years left. It would take a ludicrous offer of ManU proportions to make a deal happen.

jones

speedy wrote:
Well Dortmund never sell, only sahin? Everyone else went for free and he has 5 years left. It would take a ludicrous offer of ManU proportions to make a deal happen.

Götze, Kagawa, Perisic etc all went for money despite Dortmund trying to keep them. They have neither the financial muscle nor title chances to realistically keep hold of their players if we came calling.

Rex

As we have seen firsthand at Arsenal not too long ago, contracts aren't all that important. If a player really wants to go, that's usually what happens these days.

dreamlord

We need to be a clear cut step above Dortmund for the player to be interested. At this moment I doubt Aubameyang would be interested in a move to either United or us. Win the league, and we can start talking.

marv3llous

We have CL, we can offer a much higher wage, unlike Dortmund we actually have a shot at winning the league, we are in London.

Plenty of upside to join us.

Klaus

Dortmund are looking good under Tuchel though and this could arguably be considered Aubameyang's breakthrough season. It's not a typical situation where you decide to up and leave in January. I hope he does, but a summer transfer through contact we establish with Dortmund now seems a lot more likely.

Claudius

To be fair, he had broken through by last spring. I just think people were wondering if he's having a hot streak and will cool down this year. Klaus, the way we are desperate for a striker - I would spunk it all on him. And if he goes back to being Soldado, it'll suck, but such is life. We won't know without trying.

jones

Players like Soldado failed in the EPL not because they are shit but because of mismanagement. Iago Aspas didn't even look like a League Two player at Liverpool and only little better at Sevilla afterwards, back at Celta Vigo he's one of the best players in the league who annihilated Barcelona pretty much single-handedly.

Of course players are also responsible for adapting to a new environment but if the club decides to spend 30m on a striker from a different country they better make sure to use and include him properly, it's not like Soldado had a difficult character or shit work rate at Spurs, he just wasn't used properly at first and then lost all confidence as a result.

Qwiss

Mismanaged how exactly? I remember Soldado getting plenty of service and squandering loads of really good chances. He just kept pulling the ball wide in those first couple of months at Spurs. I don't know how you could blame anyone but him for that. He was just found out.

jones

I remember him playing in the hole at #10, a position he's never played before in his career. He's missed loads of chances but it surely doesn't help to play him elsewhere to accommodate fucking Adebayor.

marv3llous

Claudius

the f*ck is this abomination?

QuincyAbeyie

Pretty humble guy, that Adebayor fella.

Clrnc

jones wrote:
speedy wrote:
Well Dortmund never sell, only sahin? Everyone else went for free and he has 5 years left. It would take a ludicrous offer of ManU proportions to make a deal happen.

Götze, Kagawa, Perisic etc all went for money despite Dortmund trying to keep them. They have neither the financial muscle nor title chances to realistically keep hold of their players if we came calling.

Wasn't Gotze because of a clause? They were desperate to keep him no matter what. I am always under the impression that they will Perisic willingly because he wasn't good enough which is proven to be true now. Kagawa only had a year of contract left.

jones

Claudius wrote:
the f*ck is this abomination?

That would be a rare picture of Rick Ross before the burgers

jones

Clrnc wrote:
jones wrote:
Götze, Kagawa, Perisic etc all went for money despite Dortmund trying to keep them. They have neither the financial muscle nor title chances to realistically keep hold of their players if we came calling.

Wasn't Gotze because of a clause? They were desperate to keep him no matter what. I am always under the impression that they will Perisic willingly because he wasn't good enough which is proven to be true now. Kagawa only had a year of contract left.

Yeah that was because of a clause that Götze insisted on including in his contract. Perisic wasn't good enough to be a starter but young and a good option to rotate in, they didn't want to sell him (neither did Wolfsburg afterwards for what it's worth). Same with Kagawa which is my whole point really - all were sold against Dortmund's explicit will.

Rex

Think Aubameyang needs to post a message, for the fans, on his website about how he disagrees with the direction the club is going...

Claudius

Rex wrote:
Think Aubameyang needs to post a message, for the fans, on his website about how he disagrees with the direction the club is going...

that road very quickly leads to Fenerbahce.

Klaus

jones wrote:
Players like Soldado failed in the EPL not because they are shit but because of mismanagement.

It's a bit of both in all honesty. Most players are capable of looking pretty good when the team plays to their strengths. Conversely, the hallmark of a good player is someone who finds a way to use their talent to contribute to the team rather than expecting the team to contribute to them.

No one will ever convince me that Aspas, even the version of him that is performing in Spain right now, is anything but a houseboat player. Absolute bullshit footballer. He's got about half the talent of some of the limited English strikers that receive a lot of stick from football hipsters for lacking a first touch.

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