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Klopp, Ancelotti or wait n hitch our skirt up to Pep

Biggus

I remember at the time it was being built he felt Highbury was too narrow and didn't suit the new style of football he wanted to play, so he dictated the ones he wanted.

Gurgen

Klopp. At least we wouldn't play like cowards against lesser teams and would actually put pressure on the ball.

Qwiss

jones wrote:
MistaT wrote:
Klopp would be entertaining at the least, and could certainly produce results.

Doubt Simeone would come here - our players / philosophy seems a ways off from his approach.

There's nothing at all to convince Simeone to leave Atlético for Arsenal of all places.

He could almost double his salary if we paid him what Wengers getting.

Meatwad

also 2.5x the amount of money that is available to spend on player wages. i guarantee you someone like him doesn't appreciate turning a group of unheralded players into a bad ass squad and seeing it decimated as players get paid 2 and 3x what atletico could afford.

wenger has convinced so many that we're this plucky little club punching above our weight ... with a wage bill that's almost 200m.

Mirth

Biggus wrote:
est wrote:
Try and lure Simeone from Atletico.

Or get Ancelotti right now to steady the ship and then bring in Simeone after his contract ends.

This, because there will be a massive vacuum when we're finally free of him, but he has infected every level of the club with his barren ideology and his useless hangers on coaches like Primorac.
Someone like an Ancellotti or a Benitez who has massive experience to steady the ship would be great.

I agree with this (except the bit about Benitez).

Ancelotti is a more successful manager than Klopp with a proven record in multiple leagues, including this one.

Qwiss

Meatwad wrote:
also 2.5x the amount of money that is available to spend on player wages. i guarantee you someone like him doesn't appreciate turning a group of unheralded players into a bad ass squad and seeing it decimated as players get paid 2 and 3x what atletico could afford.

wenger has convinced so many that we're this plucky little club punching above our weight ... with a wage bill that's almost 200m.

Its a great job for any manager with a bit of genuine ambition. You get time to build as long as you meet very reasonable minimum targets, you'll work in the most popular league in the world, you have plenty to spend, 60,000 people turn up to watch you every week, you can live in London, you come into a pretty strong squad and you get to style tips from some of the best hair cuts in the game.

Clrnc

Arsenal is one of the world's biggest club with the best resources. There is almost no excuse for Wenger anymore.

Put in a proper manager he will do much better than him, both in terms of performances and transfers.

Even at our best under Wenger this season, I'm not sure if we are able to beat teams like Sevilla, Atletico, Juventus, Dortmund etc when given our resources we are almost double of their revenue.

jones

Qwiss! wrote:
Meatwad wrote:
also 2.5x the amount of money that is available to spend on player wages. i guarantee you someone like him doesn't appreciate turning a group of unheralded players into a bad ass squad and seeing it decimated as players get paid 2 and 3x what atletico could afford.

wenger has convinced so many that we're this plucky little club punching above our weight ... with a wage bill that's almost 200m.

Its a great job for any manager with a bit of genuine ambition. You get time to build as long as you meet very reasonable minimum targets, you'll work in the most popular league in the world, you have plenty to spend, 60,000 people turn up to watch you every week, you can live in London, you come into a pretty strong squad and you get to style tips from some of the best hair cuts in the game.

It's a great job for most managers indeed but bar the higher wages Simeone either has the things you listed or has no interest in them. The Calderon is just slightly smaller than the Emirates, he probably doesn't care how popular the EPL is since his only interests are in Spain and Italy (think he doesn't even speak English) and he'll have fuck all to spend - Wenger might be frugal by nature but if the board were actually interested in spending for results they would have forced him to do it. Also Don Diego is easily the most stylish manager in world football.

Qwiss

jones wrote:
Also Don Diego is easily the most stylish manager in world football.

He looks like a night club owner in a Shane Meadows film, man needs serious style advice.

jones

Nah, his outfit fits his face and personality to a T. Think I posted it sometime but anyways:

The only thing that was missing was an iguana on his shoulder. Besides that last Wednesday during the game Atletico Madrid – Barcelona, Diego Simeone looked like the head of a Colombian drugs cartel from a James Bond movie. His suit was black, his shirt was black and his tie was black. He had combed his sticky black hair backwards. The skin of his face was so pockmarked that it looked as if was covered with scars. En every time he laughed somewhere else on the world a hundred downy chicks died.
The entire match I looked at him with open mouth. How he played with the crowd. How he secretly got in the way of a Barcelona player trying to make a throw in. How he asked for a card whenever a tackle was made on one of his players. How he killed the fourth referee (who complained about him leaving his coaching square) with his stare. What an asshole. What a delightfully disgusting face. What a charisma. Don Diego Simeone is the classic bad guy from a movie, but disguised as the manager of a Spanish football club.

In the past as a football Simeone was already a bad guy. He kicked his opponents across the ad boards, tackles players with two legs stretched out and whenever possible he tried to lure his opponents into getting a red card. But as a manager Simeone fits his role even better. He has made his team into one big Diego Simeone: his players rush across the field with rage in their eyes, they walk straight through opponents, they hunt the ball as a pack of hungry wolves on a deer – and oh yes, they can play great football as well. The crowd cried of happiness at every counter. At last the ideal sons, the boring Catalans, the ballerinas of Barcelona were mercilessly crushed. Atletico played so intense that I at home on my couch was out of breath. The only one who didn’t show a hint of emotion was Don Diego himself.

Simeone is the improved version of Jose Mourinho. He is scarier. He did not cultivate his ugly face for nothing with brylcreem coupe and undertaker suit. I suspect him of letting his players do their running sessions by letting a bunch of Rottweilers loose on them. Contract negotiations he does by hanging players at their ankles above a sharktank. ‘Tell my boy. Do you sign your contract, or would you rather take a bad with my sweethearts?’ And the first journalist who tries to ask a critical question will wake up the next morning with a horsehead in his bed.
Simeone doesn’t do patience. He doesn’t wait on success. He takes what he wants. In one and a half month when his team stands in the finale of the Champions League. Which he will win, because in real life the bad guys always win. When he gets the cup with the big ears in his hands, he will see his own reflection in its metal. And he will see that something is missing.

The next morning he will buy an iguana.

jones

Just heard Atlético haven't lost in 11 home games in the CL and conceded just twice during that run, incredible.

Bryant

Thanks for the correction earlier jones! Speaking of UCL records:

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est

jones wrote:
Just heard Atlético haven't lost in 11 home games in the CL and conceded just twice during that run, incredible.

Put that into perspective:

We've lost the last two home games in the CL conceding 6 goals in process. Against Monaco and Olympiacos of all teams.

Biggus

jones wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
Its a great job for any manager with a bit of genuine ambition. You get time to build as long as you meet very reasonable minimum targets, you'll work in the most popular league in the world, you have plenty to spend, 60,000 people turn up to watch you every week, you can live in London, you come into a pretty strong squad and you get to style tips from some of the best hair cuts in the game.

It's a great job for most managers indeed but bar the higher wages Simeone either has the things you listed or has no interest in them. The Calderon is just slightly smaller than the Emirates, he probably doesn't care how popular the EPL is since his only interests are in Spain and Italy (think he doesn't even speak English) and he'll have fuck all to spend - Wenger might be frugal by nature but if the board were actually interested in spending for results they would have forced him to do it. Also Don Diego is easily the most stylish manager in world football.

Eh?? How could Wenger be forced to spend money just for the sake of it?

Oh wait.....

jones

The Welbeck 😆

Atlético just conceded against Benfica by the way, way to jinx it. Another ridiculous stat, Gaitan is apparently just the third player to score at the Calderon all year (the other two being Messi and Neymar). No chance he'll come but I'd still test Atlético's resolve by throwing 50m at them for Simeone.

y va marquer

Anyone out of Klopp, Ancelotti, Simon but they have to be allowed invest heavily.

lorddulaarsenal

Simon is a bit of an unknown quantity

y va marquer

Simon's ace.

lorddulaarsenal

Simon says "we fucking win the fucking league boys"

y va marquer

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