Try and lure Simeone from Atletico.

Or get Ancelotti right now to steady the ship and then bring in Simeone after his contract ends.

This is beyond Wishlist material.

Get Klopp. Ancelotti is a great manager but I think he'll do much worse than Klopp in a club without a sporting director.

Just sack Wenger and get Klopp.

Klopp definitely. No brainer

Ancelotti would makes the team contenders again.

Mick McCarthy

An inanimate carbon rod.

Or Klopp. No way Simeone would leave A.Madrid to come here at this point.

I'd take Owen Coyle at this point.

wenger is here till 2017 - hopefully that will coincide with pep leaving bayern. reckon klopp and ancelotti will be in new jobs by then

when wenger goes it could be a terrible for a while, because his imprint is literally in the bricks and mortar of the club. whoever we get needs to have dressing room gravitas and a resume to match.

Klopp would be entertaining at the least, and could certainly produce results.

Doubt Simeone would come here - our players / philosophy seems a ways off from his approach.

MistaT wrote:

Klopp would be entertaining at the least, and could certainly produce results.

Doubt Simeone would come here - our players / philosophy seems a ways off from his approach.

There's nothing at all to convince Simeone to leave Atlético for Arsenal of all places. Only area we trump them is revenue but Atlético's board has shown often enough they're willing to spend, way more than we ever will under Kroenke. Also there's this:

He'd have to sell virtually everyone in the squad because our team consists of a bunch of bitches.

We needed a manager yesterday. I'd take Klopp

Claudius wrote:

We needed a manager yesterday. I'd take Klopp

This. Would piss off Liverpool fans even further as well

Pep's contract ends next year.

If Wenger actually does want to safeguard Arsenal's future and he doesn't intend to extend then the best thing for him to do is leave when the club has the opportunity to bring in a good manager. With Ancelotti, Klopp and Pep seemingly all up for grabs sometime in the next 12 months would be ideal.

est wrote:

Try and lure Simeone from Atletico.

Or get Ancelotti right now to steady the ship and then bring in Simeone after his contract ends.

This, because there will be a massive vacuum when we're finally free of him, but he has infected every level of the club with his barren ideology and his useless hangers on coaches like Primorac.
Someone like an Ancellotti or a Benitez who has massive experience to steady the ship would be great.

I would take Ancellotti today.

People need to realise that Wengers roots are deep in this club he's had 20 years to mould it the way he wants, he's designed the dimensions of the Emirates pitch ffs.
When he's gone its not just him but his coaches his system the players he bought (or didn't buy as the case may be) are gone too, the upheaval will be immense and the spectre of Wenger will loom large.
IMO the new manager will have a very difficult task and that is best left for one who is hugely experienced and respected in the football world, at least for a few years until the ghost of Wenger is exorcised.

Biggus wrote:

People need to realise that Wengers roots are deep in this club he's had 20 years to mould it the way he wants, he's designed the dimensions of the Emirates pitch ffs.

:brow: Where did you get this?

The Emirates pitch dimensions are based on international standards.

Klopp. At least we wouldn't play like cowards against lesser teams and would actually put pressure on the ball.

jones wrote:

MistaT wrote:

Klopp would be entertaining at the least, and could certainly produce results.

Doubt Simeone would come here - our players / philosophy seems a ways off from his approach.

There's nothing at all to convince Simeone to leave Atlético for Arsenal of all places.

He could almost double his salary if we paid him what Wengers getting.

also 2.5x the amount of money that is available to spend on player wages. i guarantee you someone like him doesn't appreciate turning a group of unheralded players into a bad ass squad and seeing it decimated as players get paid 2 and 3x what atletico could afford.

wenger has convinced so many that we're this plucky little club punching above our weight ... with a wage bill that's almost 200m.

Biggus wrote:

est wrote:

Try and lure Simeone from Atletico.

Or get Ancelotti right now to steady the ship and then bring in Simeone after his contract ends.

This, because there will be a massive vacuum when we're finally free of him, but he has infected every level of the club with his barren ideology and his useless hangers on coaches like Primorac.
Someone like an Ancellotti or a Benitez who has massive experience to steady the ship would be great.

I agree with this (except the bit about Benitez).

Ancelotti is a more successful manager than Klopp with a proven record in multiple leagues, including this one.

Meatwad wrote:

also 2.5x the amount of money that is available to spend on player wages. i guarantee you someone like him doesn't appreciate turning a group of unheralded players into a bad ass squad and seeing it decimated as players get paid 2 and 3x what atletico could afford.

wenger has convinced so many that we're this plucky little club punching above our weight ... with a wage bill that's almost 200m.

Its a great job for any manager with a bit of genuine ambition. You get time to build as long as you meet very reasonable minimum targets, you'll work in the most popular league in the world, you have plenty to spend, 60,000 people turn up to watch you every week, you can live in London, you come into a pretty strong squad and you get to style tips from some of the best hair cuts in the game.

Arsenal is one of the world's biggest club with the best resources. There is almost no excuse for Wenger anymore.

Put in a proper manager he will do much better than him, both in terms of performances and transfers.

Even at our best under Wenger this season, I'm not sure if we are able to beat teams like Sevilla, Atletico, Juventus, Dortmund etc when given our resources we are almost double of their revenue.

Qwiss! wrote:

Meatwad wrote:

also 2.5x the amount of money that is available to spend on player wages. i guarantee you someone like him doesn't appreciate turning a group of unheralded players into a bad ass squad and seeing it decimated as players get paid 2 and 3x what atletico could afford.

wenger has convinced so many that we're this plucky little club punching above our weight ... with a wage bill that's almost 200m.

Its a great job for any manager with a bit of genuine ambition. You get time to build as long as you meet very reasonable minimum targets, you'll work in the most popular league in the world, you have plenty to spend, 60,000 people turn up to watch you every week, you can live in London, you come into a pretty strong squad and you get to style tips from some of the best hair cuts in the game.

It's a great job for most managers indeed but bar the higher wages Simeone either has the things you listed or has no interest in them. The Calderon is just slightly smaller than the Emirates, he probably doesn't care how popular the EPL is since his only interests are in Spain and Italy (think he doesn't even speak English) and he'll have fuck all to spend - Wenger might be frugal by nature but if the board were actually interested in spending for results they would have forced him to do it. Also Don Diego is easily the most stylish manager in world football.

jones wrote:

Also Don Diego is easily the most stylish manager in world football.

He looks like a night club owner in a Shane Meadows film, man needs serious style advice.

Nah, his outfit fits his face and personality to a T. Think I posted it sometime but anyways:

The only thing that was missing was an iguana on his shoulder. Besides that last Wednesday during the game Atletico Madrid – Barcelona, Diego Simeone looked like the head of a Colombian drugs cartel from a James Bond movie. His suit was black, his shirt was black and his tie was black. He had combed his sticky black hair backwards. The skin of his face was so pockmarked that it looked as if was covered with scars. En every time he laughed somewhere else on the world a hundred downy chicks died.
The entire match I looked at him with open mouth. How he played with the crowd. How he secretly got in the way of a Barcelona player trying to make a throw in. How he asked for a card whenever a tackle was made on one of his players. How he killed the fourth referee (who complained about him leaving his coaching square) with his stare. What an asshole. What a delightfully disgusting face. What a charisma. Don Diego Simeone is the classic bad guy from a movie, but disguised as the manager of a Spanish football club.

In the past as a football Simeone was already a bad guy. He kicked his opponents across the ad boards, tackles players with two legs stretched out and whenever possible he tried to lure his opponents into getting a red card. But as a manager Simeone fits his role even better. He has made his team into one big Diego Simeone: his players rush across the field with rage in their eyes, they walk straight through opponents, they hunt the ball as a pack of hungry wolves on a deer – and oh yes, they can play great football as well. The crowd cried of happiness at every counter. At last the ideal sons, the boring Catalans, the ballerinas of Barcelona were mercilessly crushed. Atletico played so intense that I at home on my couch was out of breath. The only one who didn’t show a hint of emotion was Don Diego himself.

Simeone is the improved version of Jose Mourinho. He is scarier. He did not cultivate his ugly face for nothing with brylcreem coupe and undertaker suit. I suspect him of letting his players do their running sessions by letting a bunch of Rottweilers loose on them. Contract negotiations he does by hanging players at their ankles above a sharktank. ‘Tell my boy. Do you sign your contract, or would you rather take a bad with my sweethearts?’ And the first journalist who tries to ask a critical question will wake up the next morning with a horsehead in his bed.
Simeone doesn’t do patience. He doesn’t wait on success. He takes what he wants. In one and a half month when his team stands in the finale of the Champions League. Which he will win, because in real life the bad guys always win. When he gets the cup with the big ears in his hands, he will see his own reflection in its metal. And he will see that something is missing.

The next morning he will buy an iguana.

Just heard Atlético haven't lost in 11 home games in the CL and conceded just twice during that run, incredible.

Thanks for the correction earlier jones! Speaking of UCL records:

jones wrote:

Just heard Atlético haven't lost in 11 home games in the CL and conceded just twice during that run, incredible.

Put that into perspective:

We've lost the last two home games in the CL conceding 6 goals in process. Against Monaco and Olympiacos of all teams.

jones wrote:

Qwiss! wrote:

Its a great job for any manager with a bit of genuine ambition. You get time to build as long as you meet very reasonable minimum targets, you'll work in the most popular league in the world, you have plenty to spend, 60,000 people turn up to watch you every week, you can live in London, you come into a pretty strong squad and you get to style tips from some of the best hair cuts in the game.

It's a great job for most managers indeed but bar the higher wages Simeone either has the things you listed or has no interest in them. The Calderon is just slightly smaller than the Emirates, he probably doesn't care how popular the EPL is since his only interests are in Spain and Italy (think he doesn't even speak English) and he'll have fuck all to spend - Wenger might be frugal by nature but if the board were actually interested in spending for results they would have forced him to do it. Also Don Diego is easily the most stylish manager in world football.

Eh?? How could Wenger be forced to spend money just for the sake of it?

Oh wait.....

The Welbeck

Atlético just conceded against Benfica by the way, way to jinx it. Another ridiculous stat, Gaitan is apparently just the third player to score at the Calderon all year (the other two being Messi and Neymar). No chance he'll come but I'd still test Atlético's resolve by throwing 50m at them for Simeone.

Anyone out of Klopp, Ancelotti, Simon but they have to be allowed invest heavily.

Simon's ace.