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The Oxlade-Chamberlain / Joel Campbell thread

jones

Diaby had more talent in his shattered tibia than Ox does in his body. Ox is an impressive athlete just like fellow Southampton products Walcott and Bale, like the former and unlike the latter he thought that'd be enough to form a career without putting in the hours needed to become a good player. I have some sympathy for the constant injuries but his utter lack of progression has a lot to do with his attitude imo.

jones

Burnwinter wrote:
Diaby was more talented than Ox I reckon—never heard a player say Ox was the man to beat in training, they used to say that about Diaby regularly.

Diaby wasn't the sharpest by any means, but I reckon people tended to declare he was lazy and stupid because of his elegant gait and sleepy eyes. Ox certainly runs into just as many dead ends.

Good point. Remember interviews of Chamakh and Gnabry saying he's the most impressive player they've trained with, Nasri and Fabregas also were big admirers.

Ricky1985

I don't get that feeling with Chamberlain at all. I reckon he works very hard and puts tonnes of pressure on himself. For a number of reasons, it's just hasn't happened for him.

y va marquer

Ricky1985 wrote:
I don't get that feeling with Chamberlain at all. I reckon he works very hard and puts tonnes of pressure on himself. For a number of reasons, it's just hasn't happened for him.

I always thought his issues stemmed from him being inhibited by anxiety.
When he first joined he played with the enthusiasm of a young player trying to impress, further into his career here he looked increasingly stressed and at odds with himself.

jones

Ricky1985 wrote:
I don't get that feeling with Chamberlain at all. I reckon he works very hard and puts tonnes of pressure on himself. For a number of reasons, it's just hasn't happened for him.

Seen this mentioned numerous times but I don't see anything to suggest that. Ramsey around 2012 was that type of player, his work rate was always very high but he clearly had mental issues; that miss vs City where he was completely free in front of Joe Hart and skied the ball from like 9 yards out comes to mind.

Why would Ox on the other hand work hard in training when he doesn't during matches? His defensive contribution is downright disgraceful, never tracks his marker and always hangs around the halfway line in hopes to latch onto a long ball for a counter. His ball control is among the worst in the squad, injuries or not he should learn how to control a ball by now, it actually leads to more injuries as we've seen with the collision with Mascherano. His stamina is also horrible, unlike Campbell who got better when he got used to EPL football Ox hasn't improved in five years here, he's finished around 15 games out of 130 or so.

Qwiss

y va marquer wrote:
Ricky1985 wrote:
I don't get that feeling with Chamberlain at all. I reckon he works very hard and puts tonnes of pressure on himself. For a number of reasons, it's just hasn't happened for him.

I always thought his issues stemmed from him being inhibited by anxiety.
When he first joined he played with the enthusiasm of a young player trying to impress, further into his career here he looked increasingly stressed and at odds with himself.

Agree with both of you. He looks like a player constantly struggling to find form, always over doing things, never plays a natural game. He's regressed as a player because of it.

Kel Varnsen

Iwobi's performances really help illustrate a lot of Chamberlain's weaknesses. Iwobi is a very "raw" player. He's unfinished and sloppy at times, but his overall game is spot on. Iwobi is constantly moving, looking for the ball, looking to release the ball quickly, taking up new positions etc. A proper footballer who understands that quick passing is the key to drag defenders out of position. Chamberlain, on the other hand, looks like he has no clue what he's doing, both on and off the ball. When you add his shit close control to it all, it's obvious he's not good enough.

Burnwinter

Both Iwobi and Campbell have made Ox look a bit pointless this season. As you say Kel it's not just that he doesn't have end product, he doesn't generally take up the right positions or do the right jobs on the pitch either.

Wonder if it might all be bit Oedipal for him, what with his dad having been a footballer and so on.

marv3llous

Too bad Wenger hates Campbell.

Meatwad

jones wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
Diaby was more talented than Ox I reckon—never heard a player say Ox was the man to beat in training, they used to say that about Diaby regularly.

Diaby wasn't the sharpest by any means, but I reckon people tended to declare he was lazy and stupid because of his elegant gait and sleepy eyes. Ox certainly runs into just as many dead ends.

Good point. Remember interviews of Chamakh and Gnabry saying he's the most impressive player they've trained with, Nasri and Fabregas also were big admirers.

arteta as well.

Clrnc

Looks like he is working really hard this summer after the Copas.

QuincyAbeyie

How did he do for Costa Rica?

MistaT

I saw him play vs the USA, and he was alright...got subbed off around 60 mins despite their team needing a goal. Honestly he was his usual self in that he tried to make things happen whenever he had the ball. Some of it came off but other times he failed badly, and I think its the obvious errors he makes that leads to his criticism, where as if he played it safe many would give him a pass (a la Gibbs until this season).

MistaT

Oxlade hitting the gym hard this off season

Claudius

😆

IBL

is that...Kieran Gibbs? :gape:

Coombs

What the hell is Nicky B doin there?

ElGeniodeOviedo

Coombs wrote:
What the hell is Nicky B doin there?

Out of contract. Pretty sure he'll turn up on the books of a side like QPR and Cardiff next season in all probability

est

We're also a striker short now that Welbz is injured, so...

Jed

Gibbs wanna win his spot back.

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