otfgoon wrote:

2-1. They've been much better this half. Athletico need to make sure they don't concede a 3rd.

Was always gonna be easier against 10.

This ref is totally blueghhg

i keep seeing all these "interesting" prospects for France and they aren't playing for us. fuckin wenger.

They have a great generation coming through and we've categorically failed to pick up a single one of those players, from Griezmann and Varane to Martial. Makes you wonder what's wrong with our scouting.

Bitey McRacist should have been sent off for that foul on Felipe Luiz. Dirty cunt he is.

So according to the BT Sport's panel, Torres is a disgrace and should be ashamed of himself (for trying to work hard for his team, however stupid the second challenge may have been), but Suarez is a "magical forward" that is a better player for being a vicious little cunt. Fuck right off.

Didn't watch more than the last 30, but it looks from the highlights as if Bitey should have been sent off earlier as well.

Pretty lame performance from atletico. Think I prefer the way we went out to Barca tbh. If they keep out Barca in the second leg then great, but I don't see it happening.

jones wrote:

Ricky1985 wrote:

So according to the BT Sport's panel, Torres is a disgrace and should be ashamed of himself (for trying to work hard for his team, however stupid the second challenge may have been), but Suarez is a "magical forward" that is a better player for being a vicious little cunt. Fuck right off.

BT Sport employs hacks only, even worse than Sky or BBC. beIN sports are worlds better than all of them, try to catch CL games on their channel if you can. They are right though Torres is an idiot, could have been sent off already few minutes before his brainless challenge on Busquets.

Suárez is just a piece of shit, clear red card for his slap on Luis.

I missed most of the match and all of the first half, but on seeing the incidents I cannot believe Suarez got away with both the kick and then later on the slap....if he's not retrospectively banned then I think it's an outrage. Torres may have been stupid but at least it was a tackle he got sent off for and not thuggery.

Suarez got away with it because juan fran let him off. Busquets wasn't going to give Torres the same treatment.

Busquets would give my grandma the same treatment to be fair.

jones wrote:

Ricky1985 wrote:

So according to the BT Sport's panel, Torres is a disgrace and should be ashamed of himself (for trying to work hard for his team, however stupid the second challenge may have been), but Suarez is a "magical forward" that is a better player for being a vicious little cunt. Fuck right off.

BT Sport employs hacks only, even worse than Sky or BBC. beIN sports are worlds better than all of them, try to catch CL games on their channel if you can. They are right though Torres is an idiot, could have been sent off already few minutes before his brainless challenge on Busquets.

Suárez is just a piece of shit, clear red card for his slap on Luis.

While they are idiots, it's obviously true that Torres fucked up and that Suarez is the better player. 

A better player, as in he wouldn't be half the player he is without being, to quote myself, "a vicious little cunt", not meant to mean that he's a better player than Torres, as you seem to have taken it to mean. Mista T's Grandma is a better player than Torres.

Suarez would be as good a player without being a cunt. What they're saying is perhaps true for someone as Diego Costa, but Suarez isn't intimidating at all, he could just rely on the fact that he's a world class footballer.

Don't agree with that personally. I think his aggression and focus is what makes him as a player. And also what makes him a cunt.

Then you agree with the BT Sports people, don't you? I'm one of those who think you can have an aggressive way of playing without incidents that have nothing to do with football, such as biting people and slapping them.

I guess they go hand in hand. It was the same story with Rooney, now he's stopped being an aggresive little shit, there's not much left to him as a player, even though over the years he has done some amazing things on a football pitch. Suarez stops competing like he does then he doesn't have the game to fall back on to still be top drawer, in my opinion. Obviously biting and slapping is another story but you can't take one away without affecting the other.

He's a horrible, despicable, cheating thug though, without any question whatsoever.

It was more the implication that Torres is a disgrace for getting himself sent off, but Suarez is brilliant and the two outrageous acts of thuggery just make him the player that he is.

I'm not saying it's not true but he is the disgrace and he should be castigated for it, not Torres. Stupid, yes, let his team mates down, yes, but working hard to make tackles for his team - which Torres has always been poor at. Suarez wasn't working hard or thinking of his team mates when he slapped and kicked his opponents for no reason except he's got a screw loose. He disgraced himself and let down his team mates, except he wasn't punished for reasons unknown and so now he's a hero.

If, as you say, Suarez wouldn't be as good a player if he didn't do these things, then I can't see how doing them is letting his team mates down.

Most top players has a vicious side in them. Ronaldo, Ibra, Neymar, Higuain etc. They have a competitive streak because they want to win badly. I would take them every time as compared to someone like Walcott's "nice" temperament.

Ricky1985 wrote:

It was more the implication that Torres is a disgrace for getting himself sent off, but Suarez is brilliant and the two outrageous acts of thuggery just make him the player that he is.

I'm not saying it's not true but he is the disgrace and he should be castigated for it, not Torres. Stupid, yes, let his team mates down, yes, but working hard to make tackles for his team - which Torres has always been poor at. Suarez wasn't working hard or thinking of his team mates when he slapped and kicked his opponents for no reason except he's got a screw loose. He disgraced himself and let down his team mates, except he wasn't punished for reasons unknown and so now he's a hero.

The ref didn't see it, that's the reason.

We had plenty of bastards in our team. Vieira, Keown, Bergkamp, Lauren, Lehmann. Even the likes of Pires could dish it out when needed. No gooner ever complained.

They were winners and never let an opponent rest.

Now we have people like Theo who won't hurt a fly and won't win you anything.

Suarez is a cunt but guess what he's also a winner and Barcelona won't swap him with anyone, simples.

Uefalona struck again last night I see.

The best player on the planet is a dwarf-sized boy scout. Walcott's problem is that he's not very good, not his bland personality or mild manners.

Messi doesn't belong to this planet though. He is so good he doesn't even need to dive.

Klaus wrote:

The best player on the planet is a dwarf-sized boy scout. Walcott's problem is that he's not very good, not his bland personality or mild manners.

Hey did you not see when Messi did this?

Bet Theo couldn't do that...

Clrnc wrote:

Most top players has a vicious side in them. Ronaldo, Ibra, Neymar, Higuain etc. They have a competitive streak because they want to win badly. I would take them every time as compared to someone like Walcott's "nice" temperament.

Jed wrote:

We had plenty of bastards in our team. Vieira, Keown, Bergkamp, Lauren, Lehmann. Even the likes of Pires could dish it out when needed. No gooner ever complained.

They were winners and never let an opponent rest.

Now we have people like Theo who won't hurt a fly and won't win you anything.

Suarez is a cunt but guess what he's also a winner and Barcelona won't swap him with anyone, simples.

I can't believe the excuses that are being made for an absolute trash, piece of shit, sad excuse for a human being like Bitey. It is absolutely ridiculous IMO to compare anything any of those other players were/are doing to the shit Bitey is known for and then trying to explain it away with 'he is a winner'. How much of a winner was he at Liverpool by the way? Uruguay? It isn't like he transformed a shit Barcelona side into this juggernaut we are now seeing; they are sort of used to winning shit on a regular basis there.

Personally I don't get why fans get worked up by what footballers do on the pitch. Being impulsive doesn't make you a bad person, some people just find it difficult to control themselves during certain situations, it's wired in them. People who know such footballers are often shocked by their antics because they are totally different off the pitch. Suarez for example, is by all accounts, a very decent human being. He's loved by his team mates and is a model pro/husband/father.

There is another group of footballers that are always in control of what they do on camera but are horrible humans off it. Giggs is a perfect example of that. You also have rats like Fabregas who is always the perfect guy on camera. Would you really rather such people?

Point is, it's pointless hating someone based on what you see on camera especially for something they can't control/change - I find it irrational if you do. Of course when it comes to players from rival teams there is no rationality involved, they are all cunts and the enemy.

Besides, I believe people are slective in who they hate. Some players do the same things they hate other players for but they choose to turn a blind eye to it. I have seen Ronaldo for example,  punch players, leaves his studs in to hurt others etc and I have not even mentioned all the diving, showboating to humuliate others (no wonder he's whistled in almost every stadium he plays) etc But the very people who hate Suarez for his antics still love Ronaldo. Neymar, who is everyone's favourite footballer,  is every bit as bad as Ronaldo. That very Atletico team that people feel sorry for at the moment based their game around thuggery, they thrive on all the things we get incensed about when we play Stoke City.

I have come to accept most footballers are a bunch of cry babies, so I try to cut all that nonsense out and concentrate on the football.
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The idea that Suarez is impulsive and just can't control himself is bullshit IMO. He's a calculating cheat that is so regularly up to some sort of shenanigans that he often goes way too far. Its not part of what makes him a winner, it detracts from the things that make him a brilliant footballer.

What even more absurd is the notion that if Theo started biting people and throwing around racial slurs he'd somehow be a better player.

Qwiss! wrote:

The idea that Suarez is impulsive and just can't control himself is bullshit IMO. He's a calculating cheat that is so regularly up to some sort of shenanigans that he often goes way too far. Its not part of what makes him a winner, it detracts from the things that make him a brilliant footballer.

What even more absurd is the notion that if Theo started biting people and throwing around racial slurs he'd somehow be a better player.

Trained professionals (psychologists) disagree with you.
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Ok

I dunno why the lol but I'm not making this up.

jones wrote:

I can see where Tactics is coming from, what calculation leaves your teeth in the neck of your opposition in the WC after you've been banned twice already for doing that? He certainly does a lot of other stuff with the intention to wind the opponent up but he clearly has a couple of screws loose.

Indeed and he's actually made the effort to seek professional help. This not Barton (who is a thug both on and off the pitch) we are talking about. You don't hear any nonsense associated with a lot of footballers off the pitch with suarez. No drink driving, fighting in the street or night clubs, cheating on their wives (this should not be taken for granted for someone in a priviledged position as him, we have heard about a lot of 'good' guys doing the absolute no no: Beckham, Tiger Woods, even my hero (king Henry) etc).
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I think a cunty attitude definitely translates onto the pitch. Sometimes in a good way and sometimes not.

Yeah, Suarez definitely seems impulsive. The alternative is that he's stupid enough to go to a club like Barca, where all the cameras are bound to on him and his team, and still scheme and pull off shit like that.