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La Liga 2015/16

Clrnc

Gurgen wrote:
Not paying taxes is basically stealing from society as a whole. I don't really see how that is much better than being a racist (leaving aside the absurdity of the comparison in the first place).

One is a criminal offence and the other is an accusation simply based on the words of a cunt.

Mirth

If we're going to apply morality to it, players like Ronaldo and Drogba would be universally loved.

Mirth

Clrnc wrote:
Gurgen wrote:
Not paying taxes is basically stealing from society as a whole. I don't really see how that is much better than being a racist (leaving aside the absurdity of the comparison in the first place).

One is a criminal offence and the other is an accusation simply based on the words of a cunt.

No, the FA also investigated what happened. It's not just what Evra said.

Clrnc

Mirth wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
One is a criminal offence and the other is an accusation simply based on the words of a cunt.

No, the FA also investigated what happened. It's not just what Evra said.

IIRC it was mostly based on what Evra has said and no other evidence. The only concrete evidence FA found was lip readers trying to ascertain if Suarez used the word Negro in a friendly term or not.

QuincyAbeyie

Someone really wants to believe Suarez isn't a racist. 😆 The only reason Suarez hasn't committed a criminal offence is that biting someone on the football pitch for some reason isn't one.

Mirth

Clrnc wrote:
Mirth wrote:
No, the FA also investigated what happened. It's not just what Evra said.

IIRC it was mostly based on what Evra has said and no other evidence. The only concrete evidence FA found was lip readers trying to ascertain if Suarez used the word Negro in a friendly term or not.

It was also because Suarez changed his story over the course of the investigation. It's a bit much making excuses for what Suarez has done - the altercation with Evra isn't even the tip of his various misdemeanors. He's as nasty a piece of work as Diouf or anyone else but he gets a pass because of his talent.

Rex

No pass from me though! 🙂

Clrnc

Rex wrote:
Messi, on the other hand, withheld money from the authorities; I don't think too much of the intelligence of the average footballer, so it isn't even clear to me how much of this Messi was aware of. He most likely knew everything wasn't above board, but probably not the degree of what was going on.

Mirth wrote:
It's a bit much making excuses ... but he gets a pass because of his talent.

That's true 😉

Rex

Nah, I certainly think racism and overall cuntery is worse than tax fraud. Just my personal opinion.

Qwiss

Who cares what degree of scumbagerry it is. The point is they are both scumbags.

Qwiss

Daz wrote:
dreamlord wrote:
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/news/2016-2017/-weareallleomessi-show-your-support

Mes que un club is urging fans to tweet #WeAreAllLeoMessi to show 'sympathy'.
Bartomeu : "Leo, those who attack you are attacking Barça and its history. We’ll defend you to the end. Together forever!"

Apparently revealing tax fraud is attacking the club's history.

Top kek

They are such a deluded club. They carry on as if they exist on some kind of higher moral plane to other clubs, but they are as classless as it comes.

Like a Spanish Liverpool but worse.

Jed

Qwiss! wrote:
Who cares what degree of scumbagerry it is. The point is they are both scumbags.

Spot on.

As far as I'm concerned, if u are not willing to accept Suàrez on your team on moral grounds, you wouldn't accept Messi either. One is a violent thug, the other a thief. Both scumbags of the highest order and no one is better than the other.

Rex

There is a clear difference to me but, as I said, to each his own.

Sicario

This summer has proved that Messi will never have the charisma or leadership to be greatest of all time.

Sicario

Mod Edit: No personal attacks.

QuincyAbeyie

To be fair to Rex.. It's rubbish. Have you seen Ronaldo lead when things aren't going well? 😆 He sulks more than most.

Sicario

What did I make up? Does he have charisma? No (appreciate this is subjective but 9/10 will say he doesn't have charisma. Do you think he has any?) Does he have leadership? Maybe leads by example. But not in the true sense as a leader.

Ronaldo gets mocked a lot but he was a true leader during the Euros.

Any more patronising posts I will block you.

Clrnc

It's rubbish though. Where were you when Messi was winning things left right centre and Ronaldo sulking in every match aiming for personal glory?

1 lucky trophy don't mean anything, especially when international football standards are lower.

Coombs

Ronaldo jumping around and screaming on the touchline has nothing to do whatsoever with Portugal winning the Euros, and I'd go as far as to say that he made the team worse when he was on the pitch, not better. If anything, he held them back a bit.

No, Portugal won the Euros because it was a shit tournament and, honestly, has been for some time. This is due in part to the terrible way these things are designed, as well as football currently being a bit shit across Europe in general.

jones

Clrnc wrote:
It's rubbish though. Where were you when Messi was winning things left right centre and Ronaldo sulking in every match aiming for personal glory?

1 lucky trophy don't mean anything, especially when international football standards are lower.

Nope, Higuain bottling it on the biggest stage means Messi is unable to lead a team to international glory while fucking Eder of all people is Ronaldo's kingmaker.

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