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Qwiss

Some shows definitely work better with a bit of time to ruminate on them. I binged The Boys season 1 though and I don't think it suffers from it. Same with the Expanse at the moment.

goon

Personally I think 95% of shows benefit from binging. The only difference is some shows definitely need a break between seasons.

I was going to build up the Expanse but didn't have the patience, it still works, but I'm definitely not as invested.

banduan

Made the mistake of watching the first released episodes of Attack on Titan's final season and now am forced to wait for the rest.

Unreal show, just so frikkin good.

QuincyAbeyie

banduan wrote:
Made the mistake of watching the first released episodes of Attack on Titan's final season and now am forced to wait for the rest.

Unreal show, just so frikkin good.

I was afraid when they changed the animation team, but they've done a good job of replicating the animation from the other seasons.

The last episode that's aired was amazing.

Asterix

WandaVision is weird. It's basically like watching Bewitched so far but not very funny. I haven't read too much about it so don't know the theories. I did read that the arc will flow through sitcoms over the decades, up to Modern Family.

I'm kind of intrigued but so far it's not great. Weird and I'm a bit intrigued, but the first two episodes were a bit of a chore to be honest. It's fun seeing Paul Bettany be goofy - he's quite good at it, and Elizabeth Olsen also fits well into the 60s sitcom vibe, but the writing is just a bit dull.

QuincyAbeyie

I liked it and thought it was refreshing to Se something different in the MCU, but story-wise it started a bit slow, yeah.

Coombs

goon wrote:
Personally I think 95% of shows benefit from binging. The only difference is some shows definitely need a break between seasons.

I was going to build up the Expanse but didn't have the patience, it still works, but I'm definitely not as invested.

Agree, especially with inbetween-y episodes that try to make the characters more compelling than they are. I just find myself longing for Bobby and Avasarala to scheme about arms dealers and electoral politics instead of watching emotionally bankrupt mother-son interpersonal dramas. Not being able to hit next episode to cleanse the palate is a bit frustrating.

Burnwinter

EXPANSE season five spoilers:

[spoiler]What they've done to Naomi in this season has been a real shame.

Removed her agency, almost removed her ethical subjectivity. Made her all about being mummy.

The dialogue for the other characters in that arc is a joke as well, Marco Inaros could have been interesting, but as written he's a deeply unconvincing dude and trying to fix it by having the boom operator hover over him as he whispers aggressively isn't helping.[/spoiler]

Coombs

Burnwinter wrote:
EXPANSE season five spoilers:

[spoiler]What they've done to Naomi in this season has been a real shame.

Removed her agency, almost removed her ethical subjectivity. Made her all about being mummy.

The dialogue for the other characters in that arc is a joke as well, Marco Inaros could have been interesting, but as written he's a deeply unconvincing dude and trying to fix it by having the boom operator hover over him as he whispers aggressively isn't helping.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Couldn't agree more. The reason why the show has shined for me was that it privileged plot over character, while managing to embrace and even enhance the cheesy qualities that often accompany science fiction television. In a way, they were part of a tradition that I respect and can really get on board with. Trying to add elements of character-driven drama was always going to reveal how poor that sort of TV comes off, especially in the context of more grand worldbuilding where the interpersonal stuff comes off as trite and irrelevant. They did end it well, I thought, and gave Naomi some of her mojo back, but the journey there was totally pointless.[/spoiler]

Asterix

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
I liked it and thought it was refreshing to Se something different in the MCU, but story-wise it started a bit slow, yeah.

Ok sounds promising - we've only got 2 episodes dropped here in Aus so far.

Qwiss

Only 2 episodes everywhere so far. I liked it too, actually thought it did a good job of being decently funny, more so than I expected anyway. I'm glad its a bit different, be very easy to just churn out some second rate version of the movies.

goon

Coombs wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
EXPANSE season five spoilers:

[spoiler]What they've done to Naomi in this season has been a real shame.

Removed her agency, almost removed her ethical subjectivity. Made her all about being mummy.

The dialogue for the other characters in that arc is a joke as well, Marco Inaros could have been interesting, but as written he's a deeply unconvincing dude and trying to fix it by having the boom operator hover over him as he whispers aggressively isn't helping.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Couldn't agree more. The reason why the show has shined for me was that it privileged plot over character, while managing to embrace and even enhance the cheesy qualities that often accompany science fiction television. In a way, they were part of a tradition that I respect and can really get on board with. Trying to add elements of character-driven drama was always going to reveal how poor that sort of TV comes off, especially in the context of more grand worldbuilding where the interpersonal stuff comes off as trite and irrelevant. They did end it well, I thought, and gave Naomi some of her mojo back, but the journey there was totally pointless.[/spoiler]

Agree with both, though I do think it's always had this side to it. It just feels a little more pronounced this season, especially on the back of episode 4.
[spoiler]
I struggle to care about Amos and Peaches too. Am I the only one who can't remember why these two are close in the first place?
[/spoiler]

Klaus

goon wrote:
Agree with both, though I do think it's always had this side to it. It just feels a little more pronounced this season, especially on the back of episode 4.
[spoiler]
I struggle to care about Amos and Peaches too. Am I the only one who can't remember why these two are close in the first place?
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]
I don't care about her either, but that storyline isn't about their relationship to me as much as it's about putting a POV back on Earth during and after the attacks, which I'm actually grateful for. There was a Martian warhead that exploded somewhere back in South America in one of the earlier seasons, supposedly killing hundreds of thousands of people, and we didn't get to see any of the destruction or aftermath. It was virtually the same with Eros when it got consumed by protomolecule. There were half a million people living on that rock and we got to see two dozen of them or so get infected.

This used to be one of my great annoyances with The Expanse: for all the good things it did it never got the scale right. You never truly felt the size and the impact of these terrible things happening. The Amos and Peaches storyline is a little different in that sense, and I appreciate it, even if I could have lived without her character being reintroduced too.
[/spoiler]

Sicario

Screech Powers RIP

goon

Season 5 of the Expanse felt a bit like a filler season, bit disappointing when there’s only one left. You’d have hoped they’d have made each season count.

Coombs

It was a flyover season to be sure. Disappointing.

Gazza M

that was season 4 and 5 for me. the show has been losing steam for a while

Coombs

Got around to WandaVision.

Shocked, honestly. Pleasantly. Some really splendid moments. Too bad about the whole Avengers thing. Without that, it'd be excellent.

QuincyAbeyie

And for us who don't mind the whole Avengers thing, it is. Especially ending of episode 5 was amazing.

Claudius

Klaus wrote:
goon wrote:
Agree with both, though I do think it's always had this side to it. It just feels a little more pronounced this season, especially on the back of episode 4.
[spoiler]
I struggle to care about Amos and Peaches too. Am I the only one who can't remember why these two are close in the first place?
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]
I don't care about her either, but that storyline isn't about their relationship to me as much as it's about putting a POV back on Earth during and after the attacks, which I'm actually grateful for. There was a Martian warhead that exploded somewhere back in South America in one of the earlier seasons, supposedly killing hundreds of thousands of people, and we didn't get to see any of the destruction or aftermath. It was virtually the same with Eros when it got consumed by protomolecule. There were half a million people living on that rock and we got to see two dozen of them or so get infected.

This used to be one of my great annoyances with The Expanse: for all the good things it did it never got the scale right. You never truly felt the size and the impact of these terrible things happening. The Amos and Peaches storyline is a little different in that sense, and I appreciate it, even if I could have lived without her character being reintroduced too.
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]
I actually liked this season. And the Amos/Peaches relationship. He found a kindred spirit in her. Someone broken like him. Amos always seemed like he’d had his temporal lobe altered like the protomolecule scientist to dull emotional response. I think when he sees Peaches he identifies with her for all her violent acts and feels protective of her, although she still has much more of a conscience than him.

The great thing about stories like Amos/Peaches and Naomi alone on her ship is the intimacy of it all - even as the Rocinante crew are millions of miles apart. And how they are so resourceful. Survivors.

That said, I think season 1 is far and away the best season. It helps that they brought the first 2 books together to give us all the different perspectives with action and political intrigue. Beyond season 2, they’ve lacked that depth a bit.
[/spoiler]

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