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One More on the Telly

jones

Netflix always do that with their 10 minute trailers

goon

I don’t watch trailers anymore, especially on Netflix. Last time I did it actually revealed a major plot twist.

Mirth

😆 I actually watch trailers for shows that I'm mildly interested in but have no intention of watching. Works well.

Claudius

goon wrote:
I don’t watch trailers anymore, especially on Netflix. Last time I did it actually revealed a major plot twist.

you're like me. I just go to Rotten tomatoes - look at the critic and audience scores and decide on that basis.

QuincyAbeyie

And still you chose to watch Hollywood!

Claudius

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
And still you chose to watch Hollywood!

I had faith in the director. Also wanted something I could watch with the wife. Very disappointed

Klaus

I just finished the first season of Solar Opposites. It's just eight episodes. I thought it would be too similar to Rick and Morty at first but I ended up liking it a lot, and for different reasons. Like a mix between Adventure Time and Futurama maybe. Or it has the potential to turn out that way at least.

QuincyAbeyie

Speaking of, the creators of Adventure Time have a new Netflix show as well called Midnight Gospel. Haven't checked it out though.

Qwiss

2nd season of What We Do in the Shadows was even funnier than the first.

Coombs

Qwiss! wrote:
2nd season of What We Do in the Shadows was even funnier than the first.

It really is excellent.

Coombs

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Jesus Christ Coombs, do you know how much property there is in that show

Baginski wrote:
...but property also is no more than a spook, in whose name the individual is enslaved—and how enslaved! The individual is nowadays held in far stronger bondage by property, than by the combined power of State, religion and morality [...] The prime condition is that the individual should not be forced to humiliate and lower himself for the sake of property and subsistence.

Burnwinter

THE LAST DANCE was immensely satisfying.

Daz

Yeah I finished watching it on the weekend and really enjoyed it too. I was amazed by how much I knew about basketball from that era, even though I was never really a massive fan (and not a Bulls supporter). I guess it is a testament to just how influential it was on pop culture outside the US at the time.
As much as I can admire MJ's sheer determination and single mindedness, I also can't help but feel sorry for people like that that are so obsessed. It must be absolutely exhausting and obviously can alienate those around them.

jones

I started watching Monzon, looks very promising. Biopic/show about Carlos Monzon, a Native Argentinian boxer from the 70s whose life was eventful from the cradle to the grave. Grew up in abject poverty and rose to fame and a glamourous and violent private life but what a fighter he was, sort of looked unimpressive unathletic straight legged but man you could see his hands are made of pure lead. Seriously sadistic mind on him you could tell he was as comfortable being in pain as he was dishing it out, granite chin but what stood out was his mentality I don't think I've seen a minute let alone a round where he wavered. Looking really forward to watching the show

Claudius

I was just on Apple TV+ for the first time in a couple of months. They're slowly expanding their library. I see what they're doing. They clearly want to operate in the space of high quality content. They don't have too many great shows and movies yet. Maybe Dickinson and the Banker, but they're sticking to a formula. I'd say give it a year for them to learn. These guys have the cash and commitment to see things through. if I had to bet right now - I'd say the TV landscape looks like Netflix, Disney/Hulu/ESPN, Amazon and Apple as the primary content overlays. The hardware part of the game will become commoditised as more people upgrade TVs and devices and rents will flow upwards to these guys. At $10 each, folks will still be able to pick 3 to 4 services.

QuincyAbeyie

Not sure about Apple. I think you forgot about HBO, they will definitely stay ahead of Apple out of the ones you haven't mentioned. I personally think Disney should merge Disney+ and Hulu so they can have more adult stuff than PG13 on +.

Claudius

I think Disney will do what you mentioned.
AT&T will destroy HBO+. Everything they have done to date is indicative of a large conglomerate that is burdened by siloed thinking. To launch a digital product you need to target well and be nimble. They’re doing neither. I actually cannot think of a single clever thing they’ve done.
On Apple, give them 3 years. If this App Store issue doesn’t force massive (deserved) antitrust action on them, they’ll occupy the spot that HBO+ should occupy but is ceding by complicating its product.

QuincyAbeyie

HBO's model is ridiculous, I read an article just to figure out how it works. They basically have three products. HBO Go is something you get included in certain cable plans. HBO Now is something you subscribe to yourself, but it has the same content as the former. The weird part is this: The last option, HBO Max, has everything HBO Now has plus much more and still costs the same. So for people wanting to subscribe to HBO you can either choose the option with less content or the one with more, and they cost the same. However, they have taken the first step of renaming HBO Go to HBO Now, so now all they need to do is either change their prices on the two subscription options or simply abandon the lesser one and it all makes sense again.

Even if HBO is fooling around, they'll be carried by their reputation as the best content provider, which is the most important thing. No other streaming service so far has managed to challenge HBO on that point yet, and Apple is far from doing it in my opinion.

Mirth

All this fragmentation of streaming is just going to push everyone back to piracy.

Claudius

I actually don't think it will.
So this is what the fragmentation actually looks like for now.
There is device fragmentation - Roku, Fire Sticks, Apple TVs, and then Smart TVs. Each one of these things plays various services.
And then there is service fragmentation - Netflix, Disney+/Hulu, Amazon, Apple, HBO+, YouTube and lots of niche services

What I think will happen is fragmentation will reduce on the device side and access will be more universal over time. Only difference will be which apps have prime time location on app and searchability. I think there is still value in developing great content aggregation and maybe service-agnostic recommendation engines.

As for the Apps, if they are all $10, people will pick 3 or 4 and be fine. Which will probably give them better control than they have had in the past over cable which gave them 3 channels they wanted and 200 they didn't want for the same price. For me, the big variable is football. They need to choose wisely and go on a widely available platform like Amazon or YouTube.

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