mdgoonah41 wrote:
JazzG wrote:

The Dollar is the main reason, every major country and bank needs to deal heavily in it so they need to cooperate with America.  America controls the financial markets as well so gives them huge clout, so basically they can be the global police.

actually, china pretty much controls the world's economy.

Lol no, not by a long shot. US/European financial class controls everything.

Biggus wrote:

Okay, we're all delighted that FIFA and Blatter have had their wings clipped and we must wait to see how the court cases play out for the wash up, but if people can pause the applause of USA USA for a second several questions have been raised.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/in-the-fifa-case-is-the-us-mounting-a-takeover-of-international-soccer-20150528-ghbc0e.html

Good thing they can do the job when nobody else does it. 

Well that's exactly what the article is asking- Why now why from the USA Qui Bono?

Biggus wrote:

Well that's exactly what the article is asking- Why now why from the USA Qui Bono?

It's been in the pipeline for at least 4 years. They've clearly been building up evidence and had a few key breakthroughs: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/05/28/us/ap-soc-fifa-blazer.html

Prosecutors said Blazer received $750,000 from the $10 million Warner got as a bribe after the pair voted for South Africa to become the 2010 World Cup host. They also revealed he did not file a U.S. tax return for six straight years.

Blazer agreed to forfeit about $1.95 million to the government, which called it a portion of what Blazer had received in bribes, kickbacks and unauthorized World Cup ticket sales. Blazer also agreed to pay a second amount that will be determined at the time of his sentencing.

At the same time, they also announced Daryan Warner pleaded guilty to wire fraud conspiracy, money laundering and structuring — making bank deposits below $10,000 to avoid reporting requirements — related to scalping tickets for the 2006 and 2010 Word Cups. Daryll Warner pleaded guilty to wire fraud and structuring in relation to obtaining a mortgage for a Miami condominium.

The Warners appeared to have then provided information to the investigators.

Along with the whistleblower for the Qatar WC bid.

Interesting article Rayman, a good read.
Who knows, FIFA is a very wealthy and important independent super-national organisation, and the USA may have just woken up to that and wants to have it under its control.

Well, if it means more transparency and fewer human right violations, I'm willing to call it soccer if they want to.

For the record, FIFA are also being investigated by the Swiss themselves - which hardly ever happens. Plus the UK have had it for FIFA for years now.

I think it' a case of FIFA pushing their luck too hard for too long, the investigation they launched last year into themselves and then subsequently only published a third of it was particularly laughable.

Err the word "soccer" was coined by English university students in the 19th century, as opposed to "rugger".

Yeah, you've point it out before, but no one uses it outside the US. Therefore it's defunct.

Just like how no one's dense enough to call a bunch of twigs and sticks a 'faggot'

General Mirth wrote:

Yeah, you've point it out before, but no one uses it outside the US. Therefore it's defunct.

Just like how no one's dense enough to call a bunch of twigs and sticks a 'faggot'

It was quite common in Ireland when football was a minority sport to Gaelic rules and in Australia where it is to Australian rules.

Jus' sayin' that there are more things in heaven and earth, GM,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Biggus wrote:
General Mirth wrote:

Yeah, you've point it out before, but no one uses it outside the US. Therefore it's defunct.

Just like how no one's dense enough to call a bunch of twigs and sticks a 'faggot'

It was quite common in Ireland when football was a minority sport to Gaelic rules and in Australia where it is to Australian rules.

Jus' sayin' that there are more things in heaven and earth, GM,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

@darrenrovell:
Former FIFA VP Jack Warner tells the Trinidad Guardian that he will reveal gifts that Sepp Blatter made in his election campaigns

He's gonna sing!

If there was anyone you could absolutely count on to sing it would be Warner 😆 He's even worse than Blatter in covering his corrupt ass.

General Mirth wrote:

Nike becomes suspected player in alleged $150 million FIFA bribery scandal

Funny, even when it comes to bribing Nike compete with Adidas. The history of the latter with FIFA however goes much deeper, Sepp Blatter himself for one wouldn't be anywhere near the powerful twat he is if it wasn't for Adidas' founder and his sons putting him into power.

innervisionscm wrote:
mdgoonah41 wrote:

actually, china pretty much controls the world's economy.

Lol no, not by a long shot. US/European financial class controls everything.

china owns about 8% of the US's debt. if they decided to just stop rolling over their treasury purchases and "cashed in" it would basically blow up the entire global economy. china obviously would be impacted by their own decision too, but to a lesser degree. japan owns a lot of US debt too, but is very friendly with the US and would never do something like that. china, im far less convinced. the US knows this too. if china wanted to, they could nuke the entire global economy tomorrow.

mdgoonah41 wrote:
innervisionscm wrote:

Lol no, not by a long shot. US/European financial class controls everything.

china owns about 8% of the US's debt. if they decided to just stop rolling over their treasury purchases and "cashed in" it would basically blow up the entire global economy. china obviously would be impacted by their own decision too, but to a lesser degree. japan owns a lot of US debt too, but is very friendly with the US and would never do something like that. china, im far less convinced. the US knows this too. if china wanted to, they could nuke the entire global economy tomorrow.

If anything it indicates that it's always going to be China's interest that the US remain a stable and prosperous economy. If the US choose to devalue their dollar, it would hurt China equally as they peg their currency to the USD and are still primarily export driven.

It also helps that the dollar is the single most influential currency in the world - which is ultimately controlled by America.

yeah but the US doesn't really control the value of their own dollar. the value of the dollar is set by outside forces. supply and demand plays a factor, but so does sentiment toward the dollar by those outside the US.

china is dependent on the US when it comes to exporting their goods. and while the demand for those goods would decrease if they decided to nuke the global economy, it would screw the united states even more.

the US just writes large IOUs and defers the decision for a later generation. at some point, someone is going to show up at the collection window and ask for their money. china can merely threaten to do it and the US will fall in line.

Err don't we have a world economy thread where we discuss these issues?

Meanwhile in der Blatterbunker......

Sepp Blatter making his election speech..

Prince Ali Abubu went earlier.

Blatter wins.

Pope continues being Catholic.

Fuck's sake. Corruption continues

The odds on Blatter winning again were so low that you basically lost money even if you won. It was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Even if Blatter had lost nothing would have changed, the corruption in FIFA goes far beyond the little Swiss prick. The corrupt structures within football itself ie the huge monies do not allow for any change. Would have been nice to see him publicly hanged but at least we'll get a little laugh out of him every now and then.

It's embarassing for all the nations who vote for him.

Also it's embarassing for everyone who scoffed at criticism of Qatar grating the World Cup, the same plebs who thought stopping European leagues for a winter World Cup was a good thing. They've all been shown up as naive fools.

Almost all of Europe voted for Ali, but South-America, Asia and Africa still think Blatter is the way to go. Too bad, really.

Blatter has bought many of the African, Asian, and American votes by putting quite a lot of legitimate money their way. He has almost nothing at all to offer the European countries.

Now, I detest Bladder and the Quatar bid as much as the next guy, but I am not unequivocally against the disturbance of the European leagues; personally, I'd very much like to see how a season pans out where there is football during at least part of the summer. As it is, the summer abstinence of no football is a bit too much IMO.

What do you mean? There would be a world cup during the summer, so there'd be no abstinence of football.

Sorry, I should have said PROPER football. It is worse those 2 summers out of 4 where there is no EC or WC of course.

Just playing devils advocate.....

Blatters regime is a continuation of Joao Havelanges patronage system which saw football become the true world game, but the fact is FIFA in its present guise has thrived because of its practice the aeons old patronage system in places where there are little social services never mind financial support for youth passtimes.
They are in effect an alternative state just like the Sth American drug cartels and the err Mafia who provide similar services in return for the protection of the local populous.
People need to realise that the destruction of all this will see the power of the game concentrated in the hands of the stronger football countries ie Europe and the America's, and thats not ideal either.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32941740

This is clearly in no way surprising but barely one day in to us new term and Blatter shows that he had learnt nothing from all these scandals and clearly sung even bother changing anything.

If UEFA had any true principle and integrity it would withdraw from Fifa and end any association removing a revenue stream and totally undermining the credibility of the organisation. While it would require short term hit UEFA could easily survive and it would be with the aim of genuinely improving the governance of the game, not for what football usually argues about, money

UEFA needs to just leave and get it over. FIFA is as corrupt as they come. Russia and Qatar? Who is next, China and Saudi Arabia?

England and USA and I'm sure many other countries that "bid" were more than happy to go along with "corrupt" FIFA until they lost out to, most likely, larger payments from Russia and Qatar.

This is only being brought up because it went to Qatar rather than Europe/USA otherwise the corruption would still be going on as usual and no investigation would be occurring.