Those three might be 'useful', the issue is that they've invested nearly ยฃ90m and one can only assume significant wages into those players. For that sort of money they should be looking to be the new spine to rival the Aguero, Toure, Kompany title winning combination, not bit part players who may or not not become useful.

They're not operating in an environment where they can afford to make these mistakes either, even if you assume they'll find ways to stretch FFP to it's limits.

I don't know. The wages argument holds true; Man City pay ridiculous money there. Getting Bony in, who has been a very good goal scorer in the league for over a year, to me seems like a sensible move. They know Aguero is injury prone, that Jovetic is injury prone too, and that Dzeko isn't very good. Signing Mangala was an attempt at strengthening their core, and I think he will turn out to be a class signing for them, but it was difficult to predict just how shit Kompany was going to continue to be. He is their captain and spokesman anyway, so he is pretty undroppable regardless. I saw Fernando a few times when in Portugal, and he looked really impressive. It was difficult to gauge that he would have such a difficult time to adapt to the PL, and that he and Fernandinho would be such a poor pairing.

All in all, they signed exciting, promising, young players in Nastasic, Jovetic, Balotelli, Sinclair and Rodwell. They were very highly sought after players, possibly Sinclair excluded, but neither of them have managed to kick on. They signed dependable, classy players like Milner, Silva, Nasri, Fernandinho and Dzeko too; they have all done a pretty good job for them, but it is only Silva who has managed to really elevate his game a level IMO. Then there is Yaya, and there is Aguero. Those were superstars when they arrived, and they have delivered.

There are certainly a few flops they have signed too, but every club has them. Perhaps, they should have looked to sign a few more ready made superstars in the Yaya and Aguero bracket, but those players are hard to sign for every club. They tried to sign RVP, but he didn't want to go there. Perhaps that is part of the explanation here; not many top class players have been interested in going there, and they have had to shop in second best bracket.

Burnwinterโ„ข wrote:

I agree.

I very much like the new thread title ๐Ÿ™‚

Clrnc wrote:
y va marquer wrote:

I feel that the title of this thread is far too chummy and charitable .

Honestly don't get why we are discussing rebuilding Mancity in an Arsenal forum.

Well it's good that they exist as a force again, I can't help feeling that their emergence helped hasten the departure of Fergie and that was a good thing no?

I like that they keep spuds out of the CL.

Clrnc wrote:
y va marquer wrote:

I feel that the title of this thread is far too chummy and charitable .

Honestly don't get why we are discussing rebuilding Mancity in an Arsenal forum.

Because they are a direct rival. Beats the fucking hell out of talking about a two bit league like Serie A.

Or that corrupt divefest.

City are pretty boring themselves, I know they're rivals and everything but, if we're not winning the league, I'm totally indifferent to them winning it. They don't even have the decency to paint themselves as pantomime villains and make things interesting for the rest of us.

They're old, and need a massive overhaul. Won't be as easy as it was when they originally put the team together either.

Hummels, Pogba, Sterling, Bale are the players they should be after, not anyone from the likes of Porto.

y va marquer wrote:

I feel that the title of this thread is far too chummy and charitable .

Mainly cos once Ade left they no longer came across as a bunch of tossers.

Citeh are faaaaar from ruined. Goodness.

they got their success due to mass injections of established quality players. they havent really signed an elite player since aguero, theyve been stock piling middling players for the past few seasons. once they put together another fugazi commercial deal, they'll throw stupid money at guys like reus, pogba, bale etc.

qs! wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Honestly don't get why we are discussing rebuilding Mancity in an Arsenal forum.

Because they are a direct rival. Beats the fucking hell out of talking about a two bit league like Serie A.

I don't hate them, if we don't win the league I rather they win it. But to me it's about weird discussing who they should buy, who they should sell, how they should do better in an Arsenal forum. Might as well have a Man City wishlist thread soon.

Its just a discussion on their current state. The same questions of strengths, weaknesses and opportunities takes place for United, Chelsea, Spurs, etc regularly. Nothing unusual when its City. Its also more interesting because of how rich they are.

I also don't hate them but they are an obstacle to overcome for us.

Clrnc wrote:
qs! wrote:

Because they are a direct rival. Beats the fucking hell out of talking about a two bit league like Serie A.

I don't hate them, if we don't win the league I rather they win it. But to me it's about weird discussing who they should buy, who they should sell, how they should do better in an Arsenal forum. Might as well have a Man City wishlist thread soon.

If there's no interest, it will go the way of this example below.
http://www.onemoreinthetolly.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=364

Best thread ever, that. ๐Ÿ˜†

it must have been one of those Scando midsummer things, you know how they go psychotic and insomniac in all the 24hr daylight.........

Hang on I've just checked, it was posted midwinter.

It must be one of those Scando things, you know how they go psychotic and insomniac in the 24hr darkness........