he has been built into a bit of a mythic figure. excellent player no doubt, but lets not forget that vidal, pogba, and pirlo couldn't get juve out of the group stages last season.

hope juve keep him, but i think there'll still be clubs hovering around him until the end of the window

Yeah he's a quality midfielder but he's not going to turn a team like United into contenders. He's not Ronaldo, Messi or even Suarez.

Vidal's a better player than Ramsey at this moment in time. He's been one of the best in Europe if not the best for like three years. Him going to United would suck.

innervisionscm wrote:

Vidal's a better player than Ramsey at this moment in time.

No.

Di Marzio has insisted this whole time that there have been no negotiations for Vidal anyway.

Wenger was full of praise for him in Brazil. I wonder if he was available , could Wenger do another madness?

innervisionscm wrote:

Vidal's a better player than Ramsey at this moment in time. He's been one of the best in Europe if not the best for like three years. Him going to United would suck.

Yes.

I honestly think a lot of people are judging him very superficially. He didn't have a strong showing at the WC because he was carrying an injury, but Vidal is the type of player who consistently wins games by himself.

Honestly, i wouldnt exchange Vidal for Ramsey.

RC8 wrote:
innervisionscm wrote:

Vidal's a better player than Ramsey at this moment in time. He's been one of the best in Europe if not the best for like three years. Him going to United would suck.

Yes.

I honestly think a lot of people are judging him very superficially.

I think so too. He might not be a Messi or an Ibrahimovic but he's the next best thing. Comparable to Yaya Touré in terms of impact from midfield. There isn't a better midfielder out there, and only two or three on his level. It would be devastating if he went to United. He'd paper over many of the cracks in their squad the same way van Persie did two years ago.

he's really really good, and he has that talismanic effect that the great midfield generals have. as for the rambo comparisons, it's apples to oranges.

Vidal would shit over Toure playing the role he has at city.

Vidal is a slightly better version of Ramsey. Really just the complete midfielder and a magnificent player (though i expect Ramsey to become even better).

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Vidal is a slightly better version of Ramsey. Really just the complete midfielder and a magnificent player (though i expect Ramsey to become even better).

I think if Ramsey was playing at Juve in the Serie A, he'd tear it up more than Vidal has. Serie A is a step down in competition in my opinion.

samthegooner wrote:
Kel Varnsen wrote:

Vidal is a slightly better version of Ramsey. Really just the complete midfielder and a magnificent player (though i expect Ramsey to become even better).

I think if Ramsey was playing at Juve in the Serie A, he'd tear it up more than Vidal has. Serie A is a step down in competition in my opinion.

Thats not just your option, its objective reality.

It's a step down definitely, but Vidal is also the better player. I consider him the best CM mid along with Modric in Europe.

Wilshere wrote:

I'd never trade Ramsey for Vidal.

I wouldn't either, but that's because Ramsey is four years younger and has higher potential. If I had to field a side to save my life tomorrow, I'm picking Vidal.

Let's all hope it doesn't come to that tomorrow. It is only Boreham Wood after all.