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Arturo Vidal

Gunner89

Ricky1985 wrote:
Gunner89 wrote:
There is one of the things that concerned or rather concerns me with Coquelin.

When we're chasing a game or need a goal especially against weaker teams who park the bus his game is limited. He doesn't pose a threat attacking wise and the opposition double team on the other CM. Remember him getting subbed a lot at the last few games when chasing. I suspect Wenger had the same thought. Wether he's stubborn enough to think a 33 year old Arteta coming back from a major injury can last games or not he knows this. Feel free to disagree but I think Coquelin is the one who should be on the bench and a more complete DM be it Schneiderlin or Vidal should be starting. A Schneiderlin or Vidal have enough in the locker to alter their game according to the strategy be it defending or chasing a goal. A player like Vidal would actually need to curb his attacking runs more here and do a more defensive job as opposed to the box-to-box stuff he does for Juventus. Plenty of big games we might need a Vidal and Coquelin both.

I agree with what you're saying re Coquelin - it is clear Wenger saw him as unable to really contribute when we needed to chase a goal because he was always the one hooked off. My view is that Wenger sees Coqulein as a fantastic weapon to have in your armoury; in a number of games through a long season, he is just the guy you want to stop a David Silva, get a good point away from home or bring on to protect a lead. But I don't think he views him as the sort of midfielder he wants his A team to contain. The team he sends out most weeks to obliterate the opposition.

I don't think it's reasonable to put Vidal and Schneiderlin in the same sentence when talking about being dynamic and able to change their game depending on what is required though. Schneiderlin's much more similar to Coquelin in that regard; one paced, but good at what he does. Vidal can be whatever you want him to be.

Schneiderlin is quite simply a much better passer and much more technical player IMO.

I think his game here is severely under-rated here. He can pass the ball long and short like Arteta. Can you even imagine Coquelin pulling off a skill like that. The chest control followed by the 2 sombreros. He backs that skill, that level of passing with top class defending. I'll be honest- I am really not sure what other names are expected to be brought of a higher level.

flobaba

Get over it G89. We are not signing Schneiderlin.

Or Vidal.

marv3llous

We're certainly not signing Schneiderlin at least 😆

Because Wenger doesnt rate him.

Rohit

A compilation of Coquelin from last season will have some very good long range passing and great composure and technique on the ball under pressure too. What Coquelin lacks is the vision to pass through the lines from deep and Schneiderlin lacks that too in my opinion.

Gunner89

Rohit wrote:
A compilation of Coquelin from last season will have some very good long range passing and great composure and technique on the ball under pressure too. What Coquelin lacks is the vision to pass through the lines from deep and Schneiderlin lacks that too in my opinion.

Very good long range passing and great composure etc.

Can you send me a link?

Vision to pass through the lines? What other DM's are there maybe Busquets aside who possesses this ability at a much better level than Morgan?

Clrnc

Why does our "DM" need the vision to pass through the lines from deep? We have enough attacking mids to do that.

Coquelin is supremely impressive in releasing the ball fast, accurate be it long or short. I particularly love his ability to pick the right man directly with enough pace on the ball so it cuts through the opposition midfield, (See his ball for Alexis goal v Pool) and Schneiderlin similarly does that very well.

A short comparison on all the DMs mostly mentioned here. (Can't find Willy stats so...) Stats doesn't mean anything unless put into context so take it in the right way. The latter 3 had not so good seasons so I am using 13/14 stats instead for a fair comparison.

marv3llous

Tancredi also saying we have contacted Juventus.

Irishgunner

marv3llous wrote:
Tancredi also saying we have contacted Juventus.

Is he reliable? His name rings a bell

Rohit

Gunner89 wrote:
[font=Source Sans Pro]Can you send me a link?[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]I wanted to say 'No'. He is an Arsenal player and you should have seen all this last season. Your brusqueness doesn't deserve an answer either.[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]The compilation is as good as you will see for any proper defensive midfielder albeit it doesn't have him doing any sombreros.[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]The point was anyways lost on you in your eagerness to pounce. Players look good on compilations, they can mask certain deficiencies in their game and in my opinion both Schneiderlin and Coquelin lack the vision to pass between the lines. Schneidelin will be a great signing as an alternative to Coquelin but many want us to elevate our level to that of some of the best teams.[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]As for who other than Busquets, I don't know, I am not a scout. My knowledge of footballers is limited. I would be happy if we signed Schneiderlin but I like a few others want more in midfield. That's it. I don't think too many under rate Schneiderlin. Those not wanting him as their first option for midfield don't want to over rate him either by considering him much better than what we have. What we need first hand if better than what we have.[/font]

Irishgunner

Di Marzio has said that the Vidal to Arsenal rumors are bollocks

Rohit

Clunk wrote:
Why does our "DM" need the vision to pass through the lines from deep? We have enough attacking mids to do that.

I responded saying as much on the last page. It's not necessary if the 5 players ahead of the defensive midfielder are all top class. We have just one world class player in our front line though. It's imperative that the ball gets to the final third as quickly as possible and I think Coquelin lacks the vision to do so, as does Schneiderlin.

jones

Palmeri is a fraud sadly

Gunner89

Rohit wrote:
Gunner89 wrote:
[font=Source Sans Pro]Can you send me a link?[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]I wanted to say 'No'. He is an Arsenal player and you should have seen all this last season. Your brusqueness doesn't deserve an answer either.[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]The compilation is as good as you will see for any proper defensive midfielder albeit it doesn't have him doing any sombreros.[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]The point was anyways lost on you in your eagerness to pounce. Players look good on compilations, they can mask certain deficiencies in their game and in my opinion both Schneiderlin and Coquelin lack the vision to pass between the lines. Schneidelin will be a great signing as an alternative to Coquelin but many want us to elevate our level to that of some of the best teams.[/font]

[font=Source Sans Pro]As for who other than Busquets, I don't know, I am not a scout. My knowledge of footballers is limited. I would be happy if we signed Schneiderlin but I like a few others want more in midfield. That's it. I don't think too many under rate Schneiderlin. Those not wanting him as their first option for midfield don't want to over rate him either by considering him much better than what we have. What we need first hand if better than what we have.[/font]

Appreciate the link. I don't think however I posted anything construed as rude in the previous post.

Rohit

Gunner89 wrote:
Appreciate the link. I don't think however I posted anything construed as rude in the previous post.

My bad then, apologies, thought it was intended differently. It's a great compilation and you will be reminded of the talent we have on hand and all that a lot of fans want is for it to be bettered. Is Schneiderlin much better than this, I am not sure at least.

Anyway, what I do think is that Vidal definitely is.

innervisionscm

Tancredi is as unreliable as it gets.

y va marquer

Irish gunner wrote:
marv3llous wrote:
Tancredi also saying we have contacted Juventus.

Is he reliable? His name rings a bell

He's another twonk.

I think he's the guy who said we'd agreed a deal with Rennes for M'vila.

Gunner89

Rohit wrote:
Gunner89 wrote:
Appreciate the link. I don't think however I posted anything construed as rude in the previous post.

My bad then, apologies, thought it was intended differently. It's a great compilation and you will be reminded of the talent we have on hand and all that a lot of fans want is for it to be bettered. Is Schneiderlin much better than this, I am not sure at least.

Anyway, what I do think is that Vidal definitely is.

No probs mate.

Completely agree on Vidal.

jones

He's got a million deals wrong. He's also a sexist dickhead whose attempts at "banter" with his followers are among the worst I've ever seen.

Gunner89

y va marquer wrote:
Irish gunner wrote:

Is he reliable? His name rings a bell

He's another twonk.

I think he's the guy who said we'd agreed a deal with Rennes for M'vila.

That'd be Ben Faithorne

y va marquer

No it wasn't, I remember now, it was Julien Laurens

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