General Football 2014/15: Page 53 - The Arsenal discussion forum and community: One More in the Tolly

General Football 2014/15

Ray

Irish gunner wrote:
Bayern just finished paying off the entirety of their €346m stadium loan 16 years earlier than expected. Pretty impressive.

Is it impressive, but not really when you look at the league they monopolise and the revenue they receive.

Patters

Bold Tone wrote:
Wilshere wrote:
It's a disgrace if none of them are punished.

Which football rule did they break?
I would 😆 if FIFA came out with lack of sportsmanship or their usual bringing the game into disrepute.

Tricky one. This will attract a lot of attention so it'll be difficult for Fifa to ignore. They could've been a bit smarter about it - e.g. last 20 mins of our 0-0 away at Porto a few years ago.

QuincyAbeyie

Bold Tone wrote:
Wilshere wrote:
It's a disgrace if none of them are punished.

Which football rule did they break?
I would 😆 if FIFA came out with lack of sportsmanship or their usual bringing the game into disrepute.

If a draw in a Champions League group tie sends both teams through, which rule do they break if they decide to just stand still for 90 minutes?

Bold Tone

I agree with you that it's not right but a discredited organisation like Blatter's FIFA cannot take the moral high ground without a rule.
As usual they will pay lip service to the wider audience with a risible punishment covering a wink-wink deal which would make those national FAs feel indebted to them thereby guaranteeing their vote for his re-election.

Edit: This is not a CL match based on TV money.
It was a qualification game with national pride at stake.
The home crowd celebrated like they had cured cancer and removed Gervinho's shorts!

Biggus

Irish gunner wrote:
Bayern just finished paying off the entirety of their €346m stadium loan 16 years earlier than expected. Pretty impressive.

Wow, and remained one of the most successful clubs in the world whilst doing it- Who could possibly have imagined that. :angry:

Qwiss

Speaking to the Guardian, the Wigan owner issued his forthright opinions on the content of messages sent by Mackay to Iain Moody when the pair were both employed by Cardiff City, explaining why he had appointed Mackay as his new manager.
The comments were made on the same day as one of Wigan's shirt sponsors pulled out of their agreement with the club over the decision to appoint Mackay.
The texts sent by Mackay included references to a 'chink'. 'Nothing like a Jew that sees money slipping through his fingers,' read another. Whelan said he saw neither as offensive.
"The Jews don’t like losing money. Nobody likes losing money,” Whelan told the Guardian. “Do you think Jewish people chase money a little bit more than we do? I think they are very shrewd people. I think Jewish people do chase money more than everybody else. I don’t think that’s offensive at all.”
"We’re all against racism in football," Whelan continued. "If any Englishman said he has never called a Chinaman a chink he is lying. There is nothing bad about doing that. It is like calling the British Brits."
Mackay's text messages are still the subject of a Football Association investigation.

How out of touch are these fuckers?

flobaba

That's fucking gold!

Bold Tone

qs! wrote:

Speaking to the Guardian, the Wigan owner ... Whelan continued. "If any Englishman said he has never called a Chinaman a chink he is lying. There is nothing bad about doing that. It is like calling the British Brits."
...

What?

Mirth

That's from The Onion right? Or are Paddy Power doing another spoof?

Ray

He's a conservative, what else do you you expect, most of them are racists.

flobaba

... Really?

Irishgunner

Rayman wrote:
He's a conservative, what else do you you expect, most of them are racists.

This is bullshit - you're oversimplifying a complex situation to the point of no longer adding anything useful to the discussion.

Ray

In your opinion...

Ok, maybe I should have said are seen as racist by some, most ethnic minorities think of the party in that way . http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/17/conservative-party-ethnic-minorities_n_4801441.html

Anyway it wasn't a serious political debate on an online forum.

Irishgunner

Bro, it's copypasta 😆

arsedocmd

Biggus wrote:
Irish gunner wrote:
Bayern just finished paying off the entirety of their €346m stadium loan 16 years earlier than expected. Pretty impressive.

Wow, and remained one of the most successful clubs in the world whilst doing it- Who could possibly have imagined that. :angry:

And they have some ridiculously low priced tickets i remember

Rex

All teams in Bundesliga have that.

JazzG

Simply down to supply and demand, people here will pay the high prices so naturally clubs will charge more. In most of Europe the fans aren't willing to pay as much, I believe many countries have all the live matches on TV so they'll just watch it at home if needs be.

Irish gunner wrote:
Bayern just finished paying off the entirety of their €346m stadium loan 16 years earlier than expected. Pretty impressive.

Very impressive, notice people will compare them to us but it should be pointed out their situation is quite different to ours. Firstly it was a joint venture with 1860 Munich, they later bought their share out for around €11m when a corruption scandal broke. Their total cost was less than ours, partially thanks to the local government paying for the local area and infrastructure costs. Also due how successful they were they've always been a massive club so monopolised much of the commercial revenue in Germany. IIRC even now they have higher commercial revenue than the likes of R.Madrid or Man Utd. That huge revenue is what has kept them competitive among the best in Europe. As they are privately owned (by the members I think) they've also sold large shares in the club to Adidas (€75m), Audi (€90m) & Allianz (€110m) and most of that money has gone towards bringing their debt down. Think they announced in Feb they were going to use that money from Allianz to get the stadium debt free

Very well run club, doing things exactly the right way. Building a sustainable business model and investing that into the club and getting results on the pitch. They are looking to expand the capacity up to around 75k as well I believe. Gazidis has on more than one occasion said they are the club we are looking to emulate. A bit far off that at the moment though.....

Irishgunner

Fair point on the government help, they spent €200m giving the stadium autobahn and train access, definitely helped them out.

We had big opposition from the Islington council and we had no,help from the government iirc.

Rex

Ticket prices in Germany are NOT down to supply and demand though. Since each club is owned to at least 51 percent by club members, it is very difficult to push through unreasonable hikes in ticket prices.

banduan

😆 that Whelan remark

« Previous Page Next Page »