Doc wrote: Bold Tone wrote: http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/547/589/27fe1ee5700e9dfd79dce3eab26cdfe2_original.jpg?1400519783 Not my list but it is based on stats from whoscored.com and Debuchy's stats were high enough for him to be listed as the best performing player in his position. This is slightly more scientific than saying Cuadrado is Gervinho-ish. which clearly isn't true, that why I mention it. the list is inaccurate.. Cuadrado also isn't the best right wing in Europe either.. We can do a lot better
Bold Tone wrote: http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/547/589/27fe1ee5700e9dfd79dce3eab26cdfe2_original.jpg?1400519783 Not my list but it is based on stats from whoscored.com and Debuchy's stats were high enough for him to be listed as the best performing player in his position. This is slightly more scientific than saying Cuadrado is Gervinho-ish.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/547/589/27fe1ee5700e9dfd79dce3eab26cdfe2_original.jpg?1400519783 Not my list but it is based on stats from whoscored.com and Debuchy's stats were high enough for him to be listed as the best performing player in his position. This is slightly more scientific than saying Cuadrado is Gervinho-ish.
which clearly isn't true, that why I mention it. the list is inaccurate.. Cuadrado also isn't the best right wing in Europe either..
We can do a lot better
List me the available better options you think Wenger and Dick Law can get this summer.
Don't need to really.. whoever is brought in needs to be a significant upgrade on what we have. Cuadrado isn't imo.
I'm not really that big on get a winger this summer as I don't trust Wenger to get 2 world class players let alone 3, CF & DM are priority along with replacements (RB, CB etc..)
For me a Sanchez/Cuadrado/Pedro/Reus is a bigger priority than another central mid.
Doc wrote: Don't need to really.. whoever is brought in needs to be a significant upgrade on what we have. Cuadrado isn't imo. I'm not really that big on get a winger this summer as I don't trust Wenger to get 2 world class players let alone 3, CF & DM are priority along with replacements (RB, CB etc..)
Do you disagree with the opinion that Cuadrado's pace, penetration, athleticism and unpredictability are important factors we are currently lacking in our team?
id prefer a wide player that can score with some consistency. this fella doesnt seem like the prolific type. unless he's going to be used as utility winger/wingback. might be handy in that role
30m for a utility player is expensive. For 5 million less we could have got Cesc.
Bold Tone wrote: Doc wrote: Don't need to really.. whoever is brought in needs to be a significant upgrade on what we have. Cuadrado isn't imo. I'm not really that big on get a winger this summer as I don't trust Wenger to get 2 world class players let alone 3, CF & DM are priority along with replacements (RB, CB etc..) Do you disagree with the opinion that Cuadrado's pace, penetration, athleticism and unpredictability are important factors we are currently lacking in our team?
Do think we should just sign anyone who shows these qualities regardless of his overall level? Gervinho had those qualities.. shall we resign him ? Whats the point of the question? Don't think he is good enough.. Would prefer someone better with more end product & goals
The guy had 11 goals and 5 assists last season in Serie A...
Doc wrote: Bold Tone wrote: Do you disagree with the opinion that Cuadrado's pace, penetration, athleticism and unpredictability are important factors we are currently lacking in our team? Do think we should just sign anyone who shows these qualities regardless of his overall level? Gervinho had those qualities.. shall we resign him ? Whats the point of the question? Don't think he is good enough.. Would prefer someone better with more end product & goals
Bold Tone wrote: Do you disagree with the opinion that Cuadrado's pace, penetration, athleticism and unpredictability are important factors we are currently lacking in our team?
Gervinho also had body weakness, non-athleticism and inability to strike a ball as well as a god given talent to miss open goals. As to your point about someone with end product and goals, you should address that to the strikers. You should also note that, unless they are messi-esque, they still need cuadrados to help them break down the opposition.
Prefer to spread the goals, to each his own I guess..
Rex wrote: The guy had 11 goals and 5 assists last season in Serie A...
Gervinho got 9 goals and 12 assists, to be fair.
I think it is obvious from watching the players that Cuadrado is quite a bit better than Gervinho. Is to me at least.
Unlike Gervinho, Cuadrado is strong and powerful on the ball with a consistent cross and shot. He can also play RB and CM, unlike Gervinho.
Cuadrado is better than Gervinho. It's not a question of stats, it's about quality. He's much, much better. And he's in possession of attributes that are hard to come by on a football field. That's why he's been heavily linked to Barca and Bayern all season.
Gervinho had an excellent season at Roma, by the way. It's not to be scoffed at. He was better than all the wingers we kept at the club.
Cuadrado looks like he is in control of hte ball and knows what he is going to do with it. Gervinho never looks in control of the ball, or himself. He has done well numbers wise with Roma, but has still missed some howlers and his technique is no where near cuadrado's level.
Isn't Cuadrado wanted by Barca and Bayern to play right back, though, Klaus? We need a top class, productive wide man, I haven't seen enough to say whether or not he's that, but not blown away by what I have seen.
Ricky1985 wrote: Isn't Cuadrado wanted by Barca and Bayern to play right back, though, Klaus?
Isn't Cuadrado wanted by Barca and Bayern to play right back, though, Klaus?
Can't imagine why that would be the case. He's obviously not a fullback.
I think the speculation about him replacing Dani Alves at Barca has more to do with journalists being poorly clued in on what made his stock rise to begin with. It would be like buying Gareth Bale and sticking him in the defence.
Klaus wrote: Cuadrado is better than Gervinho. It's not a question of stats, it's about quality. He's much, much better. And he's in possession of attributes that are hard to come by on a football field. That's why he's been heavily linked to Barca and Bayern all season.
Are they the attributes we are looking for though? From the little I've seen of him (basically the World Cup) he looks good and very creative but we need wingers who can score 15 goals a season. DO you think he can deliver that while making the step up from Serie A to the Premier League?
Oh right, fair enough. He looks a little loose technically for Barcelona in an attacking position to me. Like I said, I'm interested to see what he does in the big games coming up. I'm no expert in him.
