i'm not sold on Guardiola yet as a choice for Arsenal. I would like to see what he would do outside the comfort zone of Catalunya. I am not dismissing what he has achieved in the past 3 seasons, I'm just wondering how much his being an integral part of the eco-system and also having 4 of the world's top 10 players on one team have benefitted him.

kamikaze wrote:

Captain wrote:

implication being that it is easy if only we spent the money (that was a 200m+ team) and if Wenger was more tactically astute (mourinho is widely considered as the most tactically adept coach in the game). I could paint you a picture but my photoshp skills are shit.

whats your point, that we should just pack it in and concede every trophy to barca?

Are you being wilfully ridiculous?

We don't know if they came out for a defensive strategy.

At 2-0 he took off Ozil for Diarra. That's like getting battered by Chelsea and swapping Cesc for Denilson.

btw, how shit are pepe and ramos? they may look decent when their team is dominating, but when put under pressure they both crumble. pathetic defenders.

Silvestre conceded less goals against Barca than Pepe and Ramos

Captain wrote:

kamikaze wrote:

Captain wrote:

implication being that it is easy if only we spent the money (that was a 200m+ team) and if Wenger was more tactically astute (mourinho is widely considered as the most tactically adept coach in the game). I could paint you a picture but my photoshp skills are shit.

whats your point, that we should just pack it in and concede every trophy to barca?

Are you being wilfully ridiculous?

We don't know if they came out for a defensive strategy.

At 2-0 he took off Ozil for Diarra. That's like getting battered by Chelsea and swapping Cesc for Denilson.

But Ozil was crap and Real needed a hold on midfield just to spring an attack or two. They were getting battered in midfield as well. It's a bit weird to bring on another attacker when it's not the attack that was the real problem.

But you don't diminish your attack when you are already 2 goals down.

Mourinho is a good manager but he is overrated. Bringing on Diarra for Ozil is just another in a long line of crazy decisions Mourinho has made when things aren't going well. He loves to roll the dice, the odd time it works he's called a genius, when it doesn't work nobody seems to care. Anyone remember Huth playing as a striker against Barca

I was hoping Puyol and Ramos would break each other's nose, I hate Real, Barca and the clown that is Mourinho.

qs! wrote:

But you don't diminish your attack when you are already 2 goals down.

Mourinho is a good manager but he is overrated. Bringing on Diarra for Ozil is just another in a long line of crazy decisions Mourinho has made when things aren't going well. He loves to roll the dice, the odd time it works he's called a genius, when it doesn't work nobody seems to care. Anyone remember Huth playing as a striker against Barca

But sometimes you have to take one or two steps back to go forward.

You're kidding yourself if you think Barca were gonna fold with Real's impotent attack. They were gonna get battered no matter what. To do the impossible they needed to get a grip at least and that's why Diarra was brought on methinks.

Let me remind you that Liverpool were 3-0 down against Milan and they brought on Hamann. He made a massive difference.

qs! wrote:

But you don't diminish your attack when you are already 2 goals down.

Plus Ozil is one of the best players on the planet and you never, ever take off a player of his quality when you are chasing the game.

Ok fair play Pepe.

I take it you would be satisfied to see, say, Sagna taken off for Denilson or Song, when 3-0 down against Barca.

Anyway Mourinho made mistakes like the rest of us. Now he's really shit after getting battered by Barca, something no one else has gone through.

At least when we got battered we did it in style.

But in all seriousness, Madrid have the players to beat Barca, it just went horribly wrong; the Madrid players looked shell-shocked and unprepared for the quality that they were facing, partially down to tactics and partially because that just happens sometimes. Benzema is also no sort of replacement for Higuain and DiMaria was absolutely shocking. It wasn't just the midfield getting overrun, Benzema was taking up bad positions and the wide men were struggling badly with their passes.

At 2-0 it looked like a penalty to me when Valdes took out Ronaldo and that could have changed the game but obviously Barca were the better team and the result was justified given how the game went.

Gurgen wrote:

Silvestre conceded less goals against Barca than Pepe and Ramos

And we were only beaten by 3 goal over 2 games.

Zico wrote:

i'm not sold on Guardiola yet as a choice for Arsenal. I would like to see what he would do outside the comfort zone of Catalunya. I am not dismissing what he has achieved in the past 3 seasons, I'm just wondering how much his being an integral part of the eco-system and also having 4 of the world's top 10 players on one team have benefitted him.

I'm not sold on the idea that Guardiola would want to leave Barca to manage us.
Is there a particular reason why people think that he would?
Isn't he another one that has Barca blood in his veins?
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Football in Spain is alot different, he'll leave or get sacked in a couple of years.

Well, his contract runs out at the end of the season, and he only signed it last summer.

The fact that he only signed a 1 year deal would suggest he doesn't intend to stay there much longer.

Guardiola has only ever signed one year deals with Barca. Was great to see Madrid getting smashed, wasn't it?