Bayern aren't far more creative than we are.
They are. Robben for example is deceptively creative. He's selfish but if he can be bothered to look up he's capable of great service.
They're overall more creative but let's not act like there's an enormous gap between the teams on that front. Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere are all very creative, the former two especially.
Yeah but their wingers really put them on another level.
Saw the stat that only Suarez has more shots from in the 18 in the league. We're creating plenty for Giroud....
Robben, Ribery and Schweinsteiger is the key for Bayern, pacey dribblers out wide, They've been at the club for long and know each others game inside out. Then you add Lahm, Dante, Neuer and Muller into the mix, the rest can be replaced.
Agree about their wingers, they are fantastic. But we have Chamberlain and Wilshere in those positions and both will become excellent players.
innervisionscm wrote: They're overall more creative but let's not act like there's an enormous gap between the teams on that front. Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere are all very creative, the former two especially.
Wilshere would start two to three games a season at Bayern. They are far more creative than us.
That's not because he isn't creative enough, though.
innervisionscm wrote: Agree about their wingers, they are fantastic. But we have Chamberlain and Wilshere in those positions and both will become excellent players.
Bayern already have 2 of the very best wingers in the world.
Their fullbacks are on another level going forward.
They are far more creative IMO.
Wilshere wrote: That's not because he isn't creative enough, though.
It's because he's nowhere as good in the final 3rd compared to their wingers
ludovic van zis wrote: They are. Robben for example is deceptively creative. He's selfish but if he can be bothered to look up he's capable of great service.
The sort of space Robben and Ribery create is key too.
qs! wrote:The sort of space Robben and Ribery create is key too.
Exactly, even with a striker who isn't top quality if your wide players are of that quality you can get away with someone who isn't top notch. Create space for the striker but also give the striker someone to link up with.
Bayern have always been very good at making their strikers score goals. They have had a very long line of average but highly successful forwards who have failed to make a similar impact elsewhere.
Actually Klose and Pizzaro was just the opposite.
Makaay had a remarkably similar rate to his Deportivo days.
Rayman wrote: Robben, Ribery and Schweinsteiger is the key for Bayern, pacey dribblers out wide, They've been at the club for long and know each others game inside out. Then you add Lahm, Dante, Neuer and Muller into the mix, the rest can be replaced.
Would love Muller as Giroud's replacement. He's good enough to play central imo.
Not sure how many goals Muller has in him, but if you gave me a three man front-line of Walcott, Muller and Reus, I'd take it over what we currently boast. As I've said, we might need to be creative in looking for a forward this summer. We're not getting a gift-wrapped Costa
Muller would be top scorer for us. Such a clever and effective player.
What Muller is great at is being in the right place in the box during counters. He's so aware of the game around him. Would absolutely love it if Pep shook him in our direction
He's a rightsided midfielder, not a striker. Love Müller though. He's developed from a flawed attacking midfielder into a complete player. Being able to play up front is a consequence of that. He could do a job in any position from midfield and up. He'd probably make a good emergency defender or fullback too.
