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Anzac

Claudius wrote:
Anzac wrote:
Whilst we've been linked to a number of wingers this summer, one thing I've seen recently pointed out that there is a difference to the type of players they are and as a result it is hard to get a clear picture as to what we seem to be after.

We have the likes of Zaha and Everton who are dribblers who like to run at defenders and to cut in side and go for goal more like WFs.
Fraser is a provider rather than a scorer and nor does he look to take defenders on.
Bowen is almost the exact opposite - he scores goals playing from wide like Reus.
Malcom seems to be a bit of everything in that he can take players on with ball at feet, score and assist.

Anzac, that’s the opportunistic Arsenal way. There is no grand plan. We just grab what we can and will end up with a vulgar squad like the reject toys in Toy Story - the hooker and her squadron.

I was hoping that would change post AW.
I guess I was hoping that it might have been a case of looking at either signing 2 wide options, or that we are waiting to see if any of our youngsters are ready to provide 1st team options and then look to balance their role with a signing on the other flank. Fo example if we have a provider we need a scorer and visa versa, or do we need someone to open up defences on the ball etc.

lorddulaarsenal

—————-Leno
Bellerin—Sokratis-Holding-Tierney
———-Ceballos—Xhaka
—Auba——Ozil———Zaha
————-Lacazette

That team would make us sexy again

MistaT

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
—————-Leno
Bellerin—Sokratis-Holding-Tierney
———-Ceballos—Xhaka
—Auba——Ozil———Zaha
————-Lacazette

That team would make us sexy again

Lots of goals in that team, both for and against. Would certainly make us entertaining to watch again.

ohboy

Ceballos and Xhaka with Ozil in front would be annihilated

lorddulaarsenal

Yep it’s not defensively strong but would attack with verve

Anzac

ohboy!!! wrote:
Ceballos and Xhaka with Ozil in front would be annihilated

Perhaps not. With that pace and directness in that front 4 we wouldn't need the FBs to get forward as much & they can baby sit alongside Xhaka in midfield, allowing Ceballos to join Ozil to support the front 3 = sort of a hybrid style with LFC style front3 married to MC style midfield & defence?

DiabyKungFu

Not that I'm necessarily super-duper bullish on Torreira in a vacuum, but if we were to get Ceballos then Ceballos-Torreira very much fits the mold of Cazorla-Coquelin and Fabregas-Flamini (i.e. one guy supplies all the technical range and the other guy does all the donkey work).

Claudius

I want an athletic team. Want to see us start using as much of Guendouzi and Torreira as possible in the double pivot. Özil and the Madrid kid can fight it out for the top spot. I want ya to move quickly in both directions. No more laborious Xhaka movements. Willock will also have a part to play

I’m worried about the prospect of Xhaka as main captain. We have phase him out.

DiabyKungFu

Claudius wrote:
Want to see us start using as much of Guendouzi and Torreira as possible in the double pivot.

Serious question: Why do you hate the beautiful game?

Coombs

Ceballos should probably play in a two at the base of midfield.

Claudius

Diaby KungFu wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Want to see us start using as much of Guendouzi and Torreira as possible in the double pivot.

Serious question: Why do you hate the beautiful game?

Or you can have Xhaka and/or El Neny.
On Ceballos. I’d first like to see him as part of a 3. We’ve lost so many midfield battles in the Premier League. Having 3 good midfielders would go a long way to restoring dominance

Anzac

Diaby KungFu wrote:
Not that I'm necessarily super-duper bullish on Torreira in a vacuum, but if we were to get Ceballos then Ceballos-Torreira very much fits the mold of Cazorla-Coquelin and Fabregas-Flamini (i.e. one guy supplies all the technical range and the other guy does all the donkey work).

Had suggested something similar earlier but was told Cabellos is closer to Rambo than Fabregas.

Anzac

Claudius wrote:
Diaby KungFu wrote:
Serious question: Why do you hate the beautiful game?

Or you can have Xhaka and/or El Neny.
On Ceballos. I’d first like to see him as part of a 3. We’ve lost so many midfield battles in the Premier League. Having 3 good midfielders would go a long way to restoring dominance

Funnily I also suspect that Xhaka could be more effective and less of a liability in an inverted 3 but as one of the 2.

Xhaka - Cabellos
Torreira

lorddulaarsenal

The thing with Xhaka is he is good at passing the ball to both flanks. Creates the right angles - could be useful if the player receiving those passes is a quality winger/wise man

Claudius if it’s athleticism you yearn for then something like this would float your boat

——————Leno
Bellerin-Sokratis—Zagadou-Tierney
———-——-Gbamin
———Iwobi———Guendouzi
Sarr——————————Zaha
————Aubameyang

Claudius

Dula. I know we were linked with Zagadou earlier in the summer and you like his athleticism but we missed our chance when Diallo left. Our best bet if you want him is that Benardi develops very quickly and Dortmund see logic in flipping Zagadou in the next year. But is Zagadou Saliba the house you want to build?

Sarr has great pace and strength but I don’t see the skill upside of a Pepe in terms of dribbling and vision. This is what I want on the flank. I want Manchester City level wingers.

ohboy

Which CB is best to partner Saliba with?

Upamecano?

Konate?

Diop?

Zagadou?

Kimpembe?

Personally I would take Diop, but he might be unattainable due to cost.

Konate or Upamecano would be next for me.

lorddulaarsenal

Diop yes. All nice options though

Claudius

Maturity profile a consideration as well

lorddulaarsenal

——————Leno
Bellerin—Sokratis-Holding—Tierney
——-—Ceballos—Xhaka
——Ozil———————-Zaha
————Auba—-Lacazette

TambourineMan

Same team as above but with Ozil at 10 and Auba wide right.

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