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lorddulaarsenal

Eurgh the new Sokratis

Coombs

Zero interest in Kannemann. Nailed on red if he ever gets a start in the PL.

KingslandBarge

What about Nico Yennaris on loan to short gap RB? or nah?

Claudius

If you want a 1 year right back get Dani Alves. I don’t think he’ll have a long list of suitors. He’s already been through a lot of the potential destinations, so it leaves a small set of clubs that can afford him.
(And I wouldn’t be concerned about him getting ahead of AMN. I don’t foresee AMN being a nailed starter at a specific role - more a Milner style utility man).

KingslandBarge

Good shout. Would be hellish assignment late into his career but if he could tweak his game a bit it could be a handy stop gap.

Claudius

He’s still got so much energy. Would give Bellerin the time to heal properly and ensure we have a proper right back to start the season. We can’t afford to concede 50 goals for a third season in a row.

Ricky1985

I saw Alves about 10 times or so for PSG last season and I'm not exaggerating when I say he was slowest player I saw play anywhere. He made Lichtsteiner look nippy.

It would be crazy for us to make a move for him. He barely played right back last season, he played centre midfield, because he can not run.

MuswellHillGooner

On the evidence of his last game Argentina, i have to agree as I cannot remember any instance of him flying down the wing.
He had a good game but as a disciplined defender who helped keep Lautaro and Aguero quiet by playing close to the CB.

BWoolley

My budget wishlist at this point would be:
In: Saliba (loan back), Tierney, Pulgar, Malcom (12 mo loan with purchase obligation), Izzo, Szoboszlai
Out: Mustafi, Elneny, Ozil, Ospina, Jenkinson, Mavropanos (on loan), Chambers

Should be a 50M outlay if done right.

deardevil

----------------Leno
Bellerin-Chambers-Holding-Tierney
--------------Torreira
--------Guendouzi----Iwobi
Aubameyang------------------Zaha
--------------Lacazette

Wishful thinking that they all have breakout seasons. I can't stand to see any more of Monreal, Xhaka, Mustafi, Koscielny, Ozil and Mkhitaryan.

mdgoonah41

BWoolley wrote:
if done right.

well, i have some bad news for you....

Anzac

I think we missed a trick not bringing Bennacer back. Not because he'd make everything better, but because he'd offer more than we could get for the same price or for the money we pocket from his move.

Klaus

I think we're missing a big trick too, Anzac, and not just because he's got good value - I think Bennacer is a better and more versatile player than Torreira. Or at the very least he will be soon. If someone offered a swap I'd take it. It's insane to me that we seemingly have so little interest in Italy and Serie A that not one scout could advice Raul and Emery to bring him back when we have a clause and everything.

Claudius

Klaus wrote:
I think we're missing a big trick too, Anzac, and not just because he's got good value - I think Bennacer is a better and more versatile player than Torreira. Or at the very least he will be soon. If someone offered a swap I'd take it. It's insane to me that we seemingly have so little interest in Italy and Serie A that no one inside the club could advice Raul and Emery to bring him back when we have a clause and everything.

Seeing Bennacer sitting there, Mancini moving for 25m, etc. This stuff makes me stew. And I don't buy this crap that Italians and Serie A players don't want to move. Young men like adventure

DKGooner

We definitely need another body in CM, but with the way our transfer priorities seem to be unfolding, we have minimal funds available to bring someone in. A Bennacer deal makes so much sense in these circumstances.

Anzac

Klaus wrote:
I think we're missing a big trick too, Anzac, and not just because he's got good value - I think Bennacer is a better and more versatile player than Torreira. Or at the very least he will be soon. If someone offered a swap I'd take it. It's insane to me that we seemingly have so little interest in Italy and Serie A that not one scout could advice Raul and Emery to bring him back when we have a clause and everything.

I didn't want to say that as I've not seen anything of him other than the usual highlights reels on youtube.
I have read recent comments that he is much like a combo of Cazorla/Rambo/Torreira/Guendouzi in that he is tenacious, has technical ability and likes to move the ball forward with purpose - other than not being a 'name' I'm not sure what else we'd be looking for at CM.

Anzac

Claudius wrote:
Klaus wrote:
I think we're missing a big trick too, Anzac, and not just because he's got good value - I think Bennacer is a better and more versatile player than Torreira. Or at the very least he will be soon. If someone offered a swap I'd take it. It's insane to me that we seemingly have so little interest in Italy and Serie A that no one inside the club could advice Raul and Emery to bring him back when we have a clause and everything.

Seeing Bennacer sitting there, Mancini moving for 25m, etc. This stuff makes me stew. And I don't buy this crap that Italians and Serie A players don't want to move. Young men like adventure

Particularly as we're also supposedly on a youth kick = I'd have thought he would fit the profile of younger players on the verge of having a break-out type season.

Klaus

Anzac wrote:
I didn't want to say that as I've not seen anything of him other than the usual highlights reels on youtube.
I have read recent comments that he is much like a combo of Cazorla/Rambo/Torreira/Guendouzi in that he is tenacious, has technical ability and likes to move the ball forward with purpose - other than not being a 'name' I'm not sure what else we'd be looking for at CM.

Yeah, player comparisons are rarely accurate, but there's one aspect of Ramsey's game that Bennacer shares, and it's the kind of drive that Aaron has. You saw his impact even more clearly last season where Emery mostly benched him. Whenever Ramsey came on he started pushing the whole team up from deep in the field. I always felt that ability made him invaluable to our football.

I think Bennacer gets compared to Cazorla because he's small (wiki says he's 1.75 but I'm almost certain he's a few centimeters shorter) and a good dribbler, but Cazorla never learned to play central midfield in my opinion. He was half of a good player there which is why we needed Coquelin next to him. Bennacer thrived in Serie A last season by comparison, and that's not an easy thing to do, especially not for a poor side like Empoli. It's tactically demanding football, and dribbly players like him tend to get pushed forward or benched. The fact that he became the heartbeat of their team, and at such a young age (he was 20 when the 18/19 season started; he only turned 21 in December) speaks volumes.

flobaba

Ah Klaus, you’re selling me a Bennacer as hard as you sold me a Chamakh...

Cazorla wasn’t perfect but in my opinion he was an even better central midfielder than Ramsey. If you’re saying Bennacer is better then I’m about to pull out my purse and pay, but I’m not loving the thought of a Bennacer - Torreira midfield going against Spurs and their Ndombele and other Goliaths.

Klaus

flobs: It'd have to be one or the other I think, not both at the same time.

Bennacer is not as good as Ramsey though, and Ramsey was mostly seen as superfluous last season, so maybe we just don't rate that kind of player. It seemed like Emery preferred ballwinners in midfield, which is probably why we signed Torreira to begin with. I don't think he ever was intended to replace Xhaka. He played in Ramsey's space in Italy too.

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